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    I was observing that I would not expect President Obama to say "and I welcome their hatred." That is what FDR once said. In fact, I would not expect any  recent US President to say that. Not fashionable, I suppose.
    If you think of Obama as the lesser of 2 evils, I do believe that if you had been around in 1936 you would say the same of FDR. In 1932 he talked of balancing the budget. He did go along with interning Japanese-Americans. He did respond to political pressures. He was being very candid for a politician when he said "now make me do it."

    Censorship is rogue government.

    by scott5js on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 01:26:42 PM PDT

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    •  Saying vs. doing. (1+ / 0-)
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      With FDR, Clinton, and Obama, people pay more attention to what the Prez does than to what he says.

      FDR actually gave us the New Deal. It wasn't perfect, especially when he cut back in 1936, but it put millions back to work, instituted the minimum wage, the 40-hour work week, outlawed child labor, etc. These were tangible differences in people's day to day lives.

      Clinton: people knew he was lying about his sex life, and knew he lied about his promised middle class tax cut. But the unemployment rate dropped like crazy, so people didn't care about the rest. I recall in the 1990s, here in the Atlanta suburbs, Captain D's and Taco Bell were offering signing bonuses. Not making that up.

      Obama has said a lot of inspiring stuff, but he hasn't delivered healthcare (yet; FOOLISH to put it off so long), and he stopped the job bleeding but hasn't put a dent in the number of unemployed.

      My mom was born in Prentiss County, Mississippi, in 1931--about 30 miles north of Tupelo. Tupelo was the first city to get electricity from the TVA. FDR came to Tupelo to give a speech to celebrate. Think about that--literally giving people light in the darkness. My mom still remembers my grandfather taking her to Tupelo to see FDR, hoisting her up on his shoulders so she could see above the crowd. Recently I ran across the text of FDR's speech that day--it was a week before my mom's third birthday.

      Damn right she's still a Democrat. Damn right she votes in every election.

      Is Obama inspiring a lifelong commitment to the Democratic party in anyone? Just the opposite; he's inspiring more Naderite nihilism.

      Actions still speak louder than words.

      "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

      by HeyMikey on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 07:15:02 PM PDT

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      •  I was talking about a tactic (1+ / 0-)
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        I was observing that FDR said something that I seriously doubt President Obama or any other recent President would say. Instead the replies I get are about disappointments with Obama's performance.
        OK, I think Obama should be listing to Paul Krugman instead of Robert Rubin. Nevertheless, I could name disappointments with any other Democratic President.

        Censorship is rogue government.

        by scott5js on Thu Aug 01, 2013 at 11:24:08 AM PDT

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        •  Krugman: exactly. (1+ / 0-)
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          I was so hoping, back in late 2008 & early 2009, that Obama would name Krugman his chief economic adviser. The fact he didn't was an early sign that Obama did not grasp how much government intervention we need.

          "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

          by HeyMikey on Thu Aug 01, 2013 at 12:45:44 PM PDT

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