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  •  Guardian said they GCHQ collected content (4+ / 0-)

    and shared it...so 'we' don't spy, but someone else does outside our constitution.

    we need a new constitutional amendment...

    This machine kills Fascists.

    by KenBee on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 02:01:05 PM PDT

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    •  What would the amendment say? (2+ / 0-)
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      duhban, Reggid

      Would we go to war with a country that collected data on our citizens?  If we don't go to war, are you willing to create a firewall between us and the offending country?

      And again, the meta-data that most of this stuff is referring to is "owned" (for lack of a better word) by companies which you have a contract with.  The contract states that the company can sell or share your data with whomever they choose, so if England decided to become a "marketing partner" with Sprint the country can buy Sprint's data.

      Looking through the bent backed tulips, To see how the other half lives, Looking through a glass onion - John Lennon and Paul McCartney

      by Hey338Too on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 02:27:46 PM PDT

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      •  something about stolen property might be a start (1+ / 0-)
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        if it is unconstitutional for the us gov't/persons to access this or that then it is also prohibited from accessing it after it was accessed by foreign persons...this obvious dodge is enfuriating and shoiuld not be anything like allowed or constitutional.

        Can you hire a foreign mercenary to kill/murder someone and avoid the law?
            Hire art to be stolen to order, as long as it's a non us person it would be ok?

        not to me...

        This machine kills Fascists.

        by KenBee on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 02:58:46 PM PDT

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        •  Let's agree that we're not talking about... (2+ / 0-)
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          duhban, Reggid

          ... murder here.  This is about data.  If another country (or the US) bought the data then it wouldn't be theft either.

          The problem with an amendment is how do you not so narrowly define the data you don't want the government to access that you prevent the government from being able to protect itself (or the people that it is charged with protecting)?

          Looking through the bent backed tulips, To see how the other half lives, Looking through a glass onion - John Lennon and Paul McCartney

          by Hey338Too on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 03:39:09 PM PDT

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