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  •  Time to engage the randomizer (3+ / 0-)
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    Although this won't work out well for the NBC affiliate, their stupid stunt exposes some weaknesses.

    • The Capitol Police may have missed or ignored a cancellation. If this event wasn't listed on the DOA web site, then I'd assume that the DOA web site is more accurate than a last-minute sign placed by the Capitol Police. Yeah, we got conflicting info from several sources.
    • This fiasco exposes a tactical flaw. The singers will need to verify that the folks who reserved the space actually show up. If not, there is no event and thus, it's a bogus reservation. You'll probably get arrested anyway, but we just can't let anyone think that a bogus reservation will stop the Solidarity Singers.
    • A predictable schedule, noon to 1:00, is very convenient. But there's no reason that singers need to restrict themselves to this schedule. There's no reason to sing only once each day. This would take some effort and planning to implement, but it's not out of the question. Maybe a handful of people singing all day long, uninterrupted, in shifts.

    Beyond this, you'd have to disrespect those who reserve the space. That's a lousy tactical move, sure to backfire.

    Just some thoughts....

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    by GrumpyOldGeek on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 05:19:03 PM PDT

    •  The bonus singing has already started (7+ / 0-)

      Even during business hours, a certain level of noise is acceptable, and with the judge not allowing any enforcement against groups less than 20, small groups or soloists appear randomly and sing a song or two.

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      by Giles Goat Boy on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 06:39:27 PM PDT

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    •  I daresay there is a good reason for the 12-1 slot (8+ / 0-)

      It's the lunch hour at the Capitol and there are no tours that overlap this hour either.

      Right now when people claim "these scofflaws are disrupting state business and tours!" it's clearly unadulterated horse manure.  No stretch of the imagination could make such a claim true even if the sing alongs were as loud as a Saturn V, but if they took place at other times then the discussion would become about the subjective assessment of volume levels rather than why the hell people who make a point of repeatedly going out of their way to avoid putting anyone else out of theirs are being arrested for singing.

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      by GeoffT on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 06:42:32 PM PDT

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      •  What happens when the wingers reserve every day? (0+ / 0-)

        The local TV idiot just showed the wingers how to disrupt the evil lefty disruptive singers. Just get a permit for every single lunch hour. No need to show up.

        "Never wrestle with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it"

        by GrumpyOldGeek on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 08:29:51 PM PDT

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        •  I have confidence (4+ / 0-)

          In the singers' ability to adapt.

          If RWNJ's adopt the tactics you outline then I'm sure people will make a point of only leaving if and when they show up, leaving the RWNJ's to explain to the world why a couple weren't able to get a permit for their wedding party when they wanted because the wingnuts made a booking that they failed to even show up at.  That or something like it would happen sooner or later.

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          by GeoffT on Wed Jul 31, 2013 at 09:58:15 PM PDT

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          •  Thanks for your insight. My thinking was narrow. (2+ / 0-)
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            My initial comment suggested that singers could adapt to the possibility of these so-called bogus permits by observing whether the permit-holders' people show up.

            I missed the fact that others would be affected by such a ham-handed tactic. Wedding party. Good example.

            "Never wrestle with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it"

            by GrumpyOldGeek on Thu Aug 01, 2013 at 12:30:02 AM PDT

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    •  noontime is the time (6+ / 0-)

      If we want any hope of holding our own in the court of public opinion, it's best to stick to non-business hours, as Giles and GeoffT note. Also, most of us have jobs.

      Wisco Wherls has begun to go every weekday after work (his schedule doesn't allow him to get to the Capitol at noontime) to sing until the building closes - Noise of Rain published his diary about this earlier today. Sometimes he's alone, but usually a couple of people happen by and join him. It's a quiet time in the building, but you catch legislators, staffers, and people wandering through the building. It's nice.

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