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  •  Old enough to be drafted..... (9+ / 0-)

    = old enough for Every.  Single.  Fucking.  Constitutional.  Right.

    Periodenddot.

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    by PavePusher on Thu Aug 01, 2013 at 11:17:06 PM PDT

    •  1970 called - you're way to old for the draft. (2+ / 0-)
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      by 88kathy on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 01:23:09 PM PDT

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      •  Since I've already served 22.7 years... (2+ / 0-)
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        enlisting when I was.... none of your business, your comment is irrelevent.

        And I was registered for the Selective Service (i.e. "The Draft") at 18, as per U.S. law, even though "The Draft" was not then currently in effect.

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        by PavePusher on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 05:22:28 PM PDT

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        •  Carrying a deadly weapon in a highly regulated (2+ / 0-)
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          military unit is not street carry.

          The graph of 18-24 year old homicides could point to the lack of drafting that age group and that age group going on a unregulated rampage.

          It was a joke. People don't get drafted any more. I was surprised we got through these 2 wars w/o it. But we did.

          So the last person to get drafted is what 60 now?  You are probably pushing 50 but then you look good for your age so it's not a problem for me. (a joke, again)

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          by 88kathy on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 07:33:16 PM PDT

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          •  Yeah, I'm sure most of those homocides... (2+ / 0-)
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            were committed by lawful carriers.

            But yeah, I do look damn good for the miles.  8>)

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            by PavePusher on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 08:09:15 PM PDT

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            •  Actually if you look at the actual shootings (0+ / 0-)

              broken out by age, I'm starting to think there are constitutional ground for very strict restrictions on men owning guns up through about age 40.

              A legitimate argument could be made based up on the long standing facts of men getting shot by someone they know (ususally another man) and of men in that age shooting a woman they know, and of men in that age range failing to secure their firearm and having child or teen in their household shoot someone else.

              Women could legitimately be exempted from such age based restrictions because there is little evidence to support any nothion that women uses guns aggressively or store them carefully.

              Lawful responsible gun owners would have no problem passing a background check, demonstrating proficiency and securing their arms.

              "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

              by LilithGardener on Sat Aug 03, 2013 at 12:14:34 PM PDT

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              •  Ah, gender AND age discrimination. (2+ / 0-)
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                Oy vey.....

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                by PavePusher on Sat Aug 03, 2013 at 01:01:07 PM PDT

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                •  I know, it can get ugly very fast (0+ / 0-)

                  when someone tries to use gun shot risk as a basis for rational gun safety law.

                  Please don't mistake my intent, I'm not suggesting that gender based gun licensing makes any sense on a moral or ethical basis. Or even on a practical basis.

                  But the legal foundation for constitutional regulations that limit RKBA rests on whether a law has a direct or substantial nexus with the risk of violence, and to the legitimate duty of the state to secure public safety for all the residents.

                  I don't mind that tax dollars support and activity that mostly men wan.

                  But what it does do is mean that everyone can be subject to licensure even though the vast majority of gun injury risk derives from men. Women are much more likely to be the person who gets shot.

                  "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

                  by LilithGardener on Sat Aug 03, 2013 at 01:31:32 PM PDT

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    •  Tell that to the Fifth Circuit, After you win (1+ / 0-)
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      there then you can bring it back over here.

      There can be no protection locally if we're content to ignore the fact that there are no controls globally.

      by oldpotsmuggler on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 02:40:16 PM PDT

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    •  Here in wikipedia 18-24 year old, from 1976 to (0+ / 0-)

      2004 consistently have the highest homicide rate for any age group.

      The ending of the draft makes it look like maybe they should still be being drafted as it still hasn't gotten back to those low levels.

      However it is trending down 2004 so maybe we don't need the draft to lower homicide for this age group.

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      by 88kathy on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 03:10:11 PM PDT

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