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  •  Are there no workhouses? No debtor's prisons? (27+ / 0-)

    With the Decision Points Theater, the George W. Bush Presidential Library becomes the very first Presidential Library to feature a Fiction Section.

    by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 07:45:19 AM PDT

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    •  What is good for us IS GOOD FOR THEM (7+ / 0-)

      So, we need to cap their income

      That's right
      -- no money above their salary.

      That's right -- they don't get separate Congressional medical plan -- they get the same one we get

      That's right -- minimum wage for each company cannot be less than 250 times the median of what the top 10% earn

      That's right -- all those abortions they stopped, they get to pay the lifetime foster-care or un-adopted that matches that costs of what they pay for their own children

      That's right!!!

      Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

      by Einsteinia on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 08:35:30 AM PDT

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      •  Disagree, disagree, disagree (4+ / 0-)

        Could we PLEASE retire this knee-jerk stuff about cutting congressional salaries and perks? Like term limits, it SOUNDS great — we'll punish the bastards!

        In reality, you will increase the corporate stranglehold on our government because for MOST of the congresspeople doing this, their congressional salary and perks are piffle — pocket change. Most of them are independently wealthy.

        The ones who are not, however — the ones who would be forced to retire from Congress because they can't afford to pay out of their own pockets to keep the job — are the very ones we want to keep.

        My Senator, Sherrod Brown, who has tireless fought against cuts to food assistance? Gone! My other senator, Rob Portman, who's in favor of them? He's rich; he'll stay. My congresswoman, Marcia Fudge, who has advocated endlessly for the hungry, homeless, jobless, elderly, students, poor and sick? Gone — she's not rich.

        Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it.

        by anastasia p on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 09:41:49 AM PDT

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        •  I think you misunderstood (3+ / 0-)
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          What I am proposing is that their salary be limited to their salary.  That does not mean a cut, it means no extra money from other sources PERIOD.

          No fees for speeches, books, and no fees from lobbyists.

          And no fees diverted to then under other names, such as "campaigns," "PACs."

          When ALL representatives are precluded from getting extra money for their non-stop campaign efforts, then they can focus on working for us.

          And we can easily write a law to over-rule Citizens United, which only works in the absence of a law on the books.

          Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

          by Einsteinia on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 09:54:35 AM PDT

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          •  Most of what you suggest is already in place (2+ / 0-)
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            There are severe restrictions on outside income by congresspeople. With very limited exceptions, outside employment is prohibited. (Medical professionals--doctors, dentists, veterinarians, etc.--are allowed to practice a little bit to keep their skills up.) Paid speeches are banned, as well as fees from lobbyists.

            Writing books is allowed, but, frankly, books by legislators generally aren't big sellers. Even there, there are strict restrictions on bulk sales of books that could benefit the authors.

        •  agree, agree, agree (0+ / 0-)

          You made a very good point, one I had not thought of before.

          It is easy to think of all of them as rich because it is SOP now days just to get on a ballot.

          They have to have $1,000,000 in their coffer and have so many signatures from around their state plus other things just to be allowed to debate their opponents. I imagine that would be hard to do if they were still working for a living before they ran. Travel expenses alone would eat up a big chunk of income just trying to start a campaign.

          *P.S. I wanted to give you an up vote but there is never a box or button for that on any of the comments. There used to be but not in the last few months, don't know what is up with that.

          •  Candide33: Are you logged out? (0+ / 0-)

            It comes as a surprise every time it happens to me.  The only other logical explanation I can think of is that you alway read diaries which are not quite fresh.  Good luck.

            The Republicans are defunding, not defending, America.

            by DSPS owl on Sun Aug 04, 2013 at 12:19:42 PM PDT

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        •  Glad to know (0+ / 0-)

          I know Sherrod is one of the great ones.  I am glad to learn about Marcia.  Thanks.

      •  Profit Margin? (0+ / 0-)

        I'd love to be able to remember which comedian said it, but I don't get enough food to keep my brain working all the time.

        Okay, Jackie Mason once said that people in Congress should be paid like people in the garment industry; if the USA doesn't turn a profit, then members of both houses of Congress don't get paid.

        They should start with minimum wage, and then for however much the US makes in profit each year, as opposed to a budget deficit, Members of Congress get a percentage of the net.

        Something realistic, like basing their earnings on a thousandth of a percent of the Net Profit, or whatever is a good number.  As I am not an economist, I don't know the right math to figure a percentage for Members of Congress.

        But I think you all get the idea.  No profit; no salary above the minimum wage.

        Given how much time Members of Congress are away from their duties in Washington D.C., they probably spend less than half their time in the legislature, and more time trying to raise money for their next election.

        So why not dock them for time spent elsewhere?  Just like a regular employee of a regular business!

        I'm sure there are loads of economists out there that can come up with an actual set of numbers, based upon this concept, so let's get together, and firm up the concept, then put it on the ballots in each of our states, to pass with the elections.  Instead of trying to hurt people by banning same sex marriages, we can put propositions up that can help the entire population of the United States.

        Or ... maybe not.

        There is no right way to do the wrong thing!

        by HashHoward on Sun Aug 04, 2013 at 08:33:38 AM PDT

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    •  Building several of them- (2+ / 0-)
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      nationwide---is the Gop's Back To Work for America Plan!

      Mayan Word For 'Apocalypse' Actually Translates More Accurately As "Time Of Pale Obese Gun Monsters."......the Onion

      by lyvwyr101 on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 08:35:59 AM PDT

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