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  •  A couple more notables. (4+ / 0-)
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    Troubadour, schumann, pixxer, FarWestGirl

    Edgar Rice Burrows, Princess of Mars.
    Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Lost World.
    Jules Verne, 20,000 leagues under the sea, Journey to the centre of the Earth, Mysterious Island.
    Robert Louis Stevenson, The strange case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.

    So many named and un-named heros of Science Fiction.

    In all of the world's problems religion has never been the solution

    by Tailgunner30uk on Sat Aug 03, 2013 at 04:29:16 PM PDT

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    •  George R Stewart (0+ / 0-)

      Earth Abides

    •  More - (1+ / 0-)
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      John Myers Myers - Silverlock
      Andre Norton - Star Guard, The Last Planet
      C.S. Lewis - Out of the Silent Planet
      "Doc" E.E. Smith - the Lensman series
      A.E. VanVogt - This Immortal, etc., etc.

      At least half the future I've been expecting hasn't gotten here yet. Sigh.... (Yes, there's gender bias in my name; no, I wasn't thinking about it when I signed up. My apologies.)

      by serendipityisabitch on Sat Aug 03, 2013 at 06:50:24 PM PDT

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      •  Psst: Last Planet is also known as Star Rangers, (1+ / 0-)
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        and boy did she clobber the bigots with that one!

        Sgt. Kartr is Ambiguously Brown, and his best friends are "Bemmies" (humanoid aliens) and a "half Bemmy" (human stock so changed by an alien environment that he's seen as not much better than the aliens) - against the background of a galactic civilization that is increasingly virulently racist/species-ist.

        The first kicker is that they're better adapted for survival on this forgotten planet they've (re)discovered than the human-supremacists.

        The second kicker is - well, read the book. (But remember, Science Fiction Writers Have No Sense of Scale.)

        If it's
        Not your body,
        Then it's
        Not your choice
        And it's
        None of your damn business!

        by TheOtherMaven on Sat Aug 03, 2013 at 09:45:42 PM PDT

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        •  A great revue! There are, I believe, about a dozen (0+ / 0-)

          stories written in this particular universe, but this is the best of the boiling.

          Something I've always wondered about myself was where I got my attitudes, or lack thereof, about race. I'm now considering just when I first read this. It came out in '53, and I must have found it in the library when I was around 12 and steadily working through the sf section. I think ever after I felt that the good guys were the ones who could accept other races and cultures, and the bad guys couldn't. Talk about making an impression!

          At least half the future I've been expecting hasn't gotten here yet. Sigh.... (Yes, there's gender bias in my name; no, I wasn't thinking about it when I signed up. My apologies.)

          by serendipityisabitch on Sun Aug 04, 2013 at 01:48:07 AM PDT

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          •  Norton never really had one consistent "universe" (0+ / 0-)

            and never tried very hard to make one. She would reuse ideas when and where it suited her, whether or not they were logically consistent - and people who try to impose a single continuity on her books eventually have to assume that she was working with a set of closely (and sometimes not so closely) related realities.

            Star Rangers was only her second science fiction book, and in some respects it shows. But it did introduce a most unusual variation on the "Lizard People" idea - the Zacathans - and one that was to be exceptionally persistent. (Unlike most "Lizard People", the Zacathans aren't ferociously aggressive. They'll fight, very effectively, if they have to, but they'd really rather spend their long, long lifetimes learning everything they possibly can about everything.)

            If it's
            Not your body,
            Then it's
            Not your choice
            And it's
            None of your damn business!

            by TheOtherMaven on Sun Aug 04, 2013 at 09:53:33 AM PDT

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