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  •  Let's see (12+ / 0-)

    As far as the Movement Conservative take on their own Voter disenfranchisement efforts in general, and on their Voter ID laws specifically, if you take a look, I think they are making some incredibly foolish assumptions.

    I think it's stupid to assume that they will only disenfranchise non-Conservatives. There are a lot of elderly voters where I live in Henderson Nevada. I marvel at how few of them have current ID. Especially if they no longer drive because it isn't safe for them to. Even with tons of help from friendly judges and attempts to make sure every poll worker is a Movement Conservative hack or every polling place is staffed with Movement Conservative activist challengers only.

    Their Voter ID laws are likely to disenfranchise a not-insignificant number of elderly white voters they cannot afford to have turned away at the polls. Given the stupidity of the whole rank effort, I would expect they would just let Republican voters pass and non-Republican voters get stopped in the most blatant way as a solution. If they deal with realizing this Republican voter drain by letting these, and other foundational Republican voter blocks who lack the standard they set to vote vote, while turning away voters of color, it is only going to make it harder to sustain the Voter ID regimes past a cycle or two.

    And these idiots are respected and feared in American politics?

    Nobody should hesitate to politically punch any Movement Conservative or Movement Conservative outfit in the mouth from here on out. From ALEC to individual Republican candidates.

    The staggering level of tactical and strategic stupidity of this cannot be understated. This is a disaster for them. Coupled with the open white nationalist nativism of the Teahadi on the most conservative-friendly immigration reform bill they are ever going to get (when you consider the demographic changes to come fundamentally altering what is possible in terms of public policy in America) that is actually still able to be called reform, we are in for a rough decade to decade and a half and then a new day.

    If the Democratic Party becomes vastly more confrontational with the Right, and forces them to drown in their own stupidity, I suspect the Right will face an existential crisis far sooner.

    My take on fighting their efforts is to always act, tactically, as if they are going to work as the Right intended to be sure to never waver or lay off or assume the flaws and wrong assumptions in the policies will be enough to kill them.

    I just don't think it's wise to let the flawed assumptions and obvious stupidity lessen your intensity.

    Anymore than its wise to go about assuming that common sense will tell most low-information voter who is really to blame and who is really trying to help them.

    I am a Loco-Foco. I am from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party.

    by LeftHandedMan on Sun Aug 04, 2013 at 10:18:00 AM PDT

    •  Thanks to anyone who takes the time (5+ / 0-)

      to read all of this.

      I'll come back from time to time and see if anybody has commented or put in their own two cents about other policy-based ideas to add in.

      I am a Loco-Foco. I am from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party.

      by LeftHandedMan on Sun Aug 04, 2013 at 10:21:39 AM PDT

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    •  NC's new Voter law hurts/insults even GOP voters. (0+ / 0-)

      NC, for some reason, defeated an amendment that has apparently passed in other states. The amendment  "grandfathers" voters who have voted in the same precinct for a specified number of years, provided their signature matches the one in the voter roll.

      So older voters of every stripe, once they stop driving, will have to get an ID card. Time wasted, possible costs incurred, possible confusion leading to actual disenfranchisement.

      And all for a voter who will be greeted by name by every single poll-worker in her polling-place on election day.

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