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  •  You didn't answer zenbassoon's question (0+ / 0-)

    Do you really  blame AFDC and FHA for causing single motherhood?

    •  I know of at least one case where (0+ / 0-)

      the WHITE COMMUNITY ended up having a rise in single motherhood due to that kind of 'father not in the home or disabled' requirement on aid.

      Coal bust. Some men left to find work and took families with them. Some left and sent money home.

      Then there were those who couldn't afford to leave or couldn't psychologically take leaving the area. Had to make there not be an able-bodied man in the house. Rash of divorces. Fathers who couldn't stand leaving the family had to find other ways to get around the rule - and did, and there are horror stories around here not being told beyond veiled references to how desperate "I'm hungry, Daddy" made some of those men.

      White Appalachian coal miners, not inner-city blacks.

      •  Cassandra as I was writing this the Appalachian (0+ / 0-)

        Population came to mind ... But this wasn't about them... The story of Black Americans and their plight is unique.

        The thing about the truth.... It just "is".

        by Osmosis is best on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 09:33:15 AM PDT

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        •  Doesn't mean that related issues with others (0+ / 0-)

          can't be used to point out that Yes, X Does Have That Effect On People In General.

          The constellation of things that lead into the current plight is unique, and the slavery history that fueled or was so many of those things is too.

          But one of the issues time and again has been the divide and conquer strategy whereby poor whites were made to see themselves as having more in common with the rich whites and practically nothing in common with poor blacks and other racial groups who were being downtrodden by similar policies - or the same ones. Started with the ending of white indentured servitude - so they wouldn't be there to empathize with the rising-in-numbers black slave population and cause problems - and it's been with us ever since.

          MLK, Jr. got killed right when he was pushing to break that barrier.

          That particular requirement on not having a man capable of work in the household is bad business anywhere when there are no jobs available for physically capable people looking for work. That's what the issue was with the coal bust I spoke of. BUT the constellation of things running against the black community means that hits them harder. What was that statistic recently, white man just out of prison more likely to get hired for the same job than a black man with no history of trouble with the law? Add in the education issue (all of it - college access, discrimination in where education dollars are spent, low expectations of the entire society in general, etc), the service-industry shift in employment patterns, and so much more, and that policy goes from being something that hits a few high employment bubbles someone can move out of to something that is nationwide and cannot be escaped from through geographical movement.

    •  Unintended consequence is the way I see it (0+ / 0-)

      Opting for benefits over a marriage license...  Correlations  and trends usually indicate causations.  Prove me wrong...

      The thing about the truth.... It just "is".

      by Osmosis is best on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 09:12:16 AM PDT

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