Skip to main content

View Diary: Adam Schiff lets Cat out of Bag: Updated with Transcript (144 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Poonting out the timing (6+ / 0-)

    Is perfectly rational.  We've been played before.  And as long as we drone people, torture them, and keep them in cages without due process, we will make more terror alerts.  Bedwetters will always be willing to trade their rights in exchange for magic beans.

    People in Congress including Schiff and Franken are afraid of their own shadow.  

    Bad things aren't bad! And anyway, there's mitigation!

    by Nada Lemming on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 09:05:51 AM PDT

    [ Parent ]

    •  So you (0+ / 0-)

      don't support Franken's legislation then?

      "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

      by raptavio on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 09:14:52 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  No (5+ / 0-)

        Franken is a chickenhawk.  His legislation leaves this in place.  The NSA should be completely defunded and disbanded.  It is too dangerous to exist.  

        Bad things aren't bad! And anyway, there's mitigation!

        by Nada Lemming on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 09:19:22 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  The problem with being all-or-nothing (0+ / 0-)

          is that one usually winds up with nothing.

          "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

          by raptavio on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 09:42:04 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  The problem with a lack of principles (4+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            poligirl, LaEscapee, TheMomCat, JesseCW

            Is that you'll settle for anything.  Obamacare comes to mind.  It's a clusterfuck that is destined to fail. My problem is far from solved and since we already blew the political capital, it'll not be fixed before I qualify for medicare, which is also under threat.   But it has the word "health" in it, so mark it off the list and move on to the grand bargain.  Why aren't you firebaggers clapping?

            Bad things aren't bad! And anyway, there's mitigation!

            by Nada Lemming on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 09:54:09 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  And yet (0+ / 0-)

              my children will be insured, my preexisting condition won't keep me from being insured, and I need not fear rescission based on a flimsy pretext. The exchanges seem to be a smashing success so far, and caps on administrative costs are working out nicely.

              It's not everything we'd want, but it's a pretty darn good start.  But yes, it's not single payer, so why aren't you Obama worshippers demanding impeachment?

              "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

              by raptavio on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 10:12:37 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  And fuck the guy who just lost his food (1+ / 0-)
                Recommended by:
                poligirl

                budget for half the month to the insurance companies.

                Because America exists to help Raptivio take cash from people who make less than a third of what he does.

                Lemon Socialist.

                Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

                by JesseCW on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 10:26:22 AM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  You stay classy, JesseCW. (0+ / 0-)

                  "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

                  by raptavio on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 10:27:49 AM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  You keep worrying about what's best for you (0+ / 0-)

                    and yours, while voting for politicians who see honest working people only a resource to strip mine.

                    You got your pay-off.  It's clearly all you were in this for.

                    Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

                    by JesseCW on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 12:09:28 PM PDT

                    [ Parent ]

                    •  Projection much? (0+ / 0-)

                      It seems to me that unless you got YOUR payoff, nothing anyone else got matters.

                      My attitude is "Great start; now let's build on it and get more benefits for everyone."

                      Your attitude is "I didn't get what I wanted; fuck everyone else."

                      And you have the chutzpah to call me self-interested. Well done, JesseCW.

                      "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

                      by raptavio on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 12:16:15 PM PDT

                      [ Parent ]

                •  i can't even afford the premiums on... (1+ / 0-)
                  Recommended by:
                  JesseCW

                  Obamacare. it made healthcare more accessible, not more affordable.

                  "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." ~George Orwell "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." ~Charles Beard

                  by poligirl on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 10:55:51 AM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  What's the point of paying premiums when you (1+ / 0-)
                    Recommended by:
                    poligirl

                    can't cover the deductibles anyway?

                    The whole objective here was for Raptavio and family to get to go to the doctor when they need to, while some sucker got stuck with the bill and still couldn't afford to see a doctor.

                    The profit margins rely on charging poor people premiums for health care they can't afford to use.  Meanwhile, the well off don't worry about some 500 dollar co-pay.  They're still going to the ER when their kids fever hits 106.

                    ACA supporters saw fucking the working poor as a feature, not a bug.

                    Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

                    by JesseCW on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 12:13:10 PM PDT

                    [ Parent ]

                    •  not only that, but it was left up to the states... (0+ / 0-)

                      for the exchanges. i'm in one of those states where being poor like me gets screwed even more.

                      "The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." ~George Orwell "When it is dark enough, you can see the stars." ~Charles Beard

                      by poligirl on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 12:29:38 PM PDT

                      [ Parent ]

          •  The problem with pretending that nothing is (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            poligirl

            something is that you always wind up with nothing.

            Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

            by JesseCW on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 10:25:19 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site