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  •  Have tried to avoid (18+ / 0-)

    Weighing in on your posts and comments. Trying to avoid the pie personality fight and stick to the main idea of the NSA story. But this one especially its title just does it for me and so I am desperately trying to be even and kind in this response to your Glenn Greenwald call out diary here.

    You clearly have one agenda...and it is safe to say by this and several previous posts, it isn't about the NSA spying issue. It isnt about what people know and have learned from multiple reporting/sources, previous journalism, government documents, and even earlier whistleblowers.Nope its not about the totality of the NSA story..not any of it.

    Your one and only agenda is clearly an attempt to smear, malign, and totally discredit Glenn Greenwald, period!

    Some free advice (I know it's free so you might find it as valuable as it is worth), you need to get out more often because your obsessive posts are more revealing about you, than anything you have written about Glenn Greenwald or his reporting.

    I don't consider Glenn or Snowden heroes.  However, I do believe that both of them have provided important additional information that is extremely valuable to our citizenry if we are truly to have an open and honest debate, one that our President welcomes, on this whole NSA Patriot Act FISA issue. They have played a Key role in that one important and long overdue debate. As Jay Rosen calls it, the  Snowden effect, and Frankly just as President Obama says I welcome that open debate!!

    Go for a walk, a bike ride...try and have a good day.

    Government of, for, and by the wealthy corporate political ruling class elites. We are the 99%-OWS.

    by emal on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 11:20:34 AM PDT

    •  I'll give your advice the consideration it merits (0+ / 0-)


    •  Oh and 1 more point (4+ / 0-)
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      If,as we learned from McClatchy first and from the New York Times after the fact, that the latest Terra alert is due to an NSA intercept of AQ leaders, kind of knocks the argument made by many including some govt leaders. The argument being that what Snowden revealed and Glenn Greenwald and Bart Gellman reported initially, well that our enemies have been aided by these revelations that all calls, emails, is being monitored by NSA ...well apparently it didn't stop them from using it??? If NSA intercepted it?

      Government of, for, and by the wealthy corporate political ruling class elites. We are the 99%-OWS.

      by emal on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 11:55:20 AM PDT

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      •  What? If true, the systems can be valuable (0+ / 0-)

        Your proposition makes no sense.

        •  No they said (3+ / 0-)
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          Snowden revealed secrets about the program to the enemy about how they were being it didn't aide the enemy if they kept using the technology that Snowden revealed to us. That is what I am claiming.

          If that is indeed the case about the intercept ..and that is a big fat....if.

          Government of, for, and by the wealthy corporate political ruling class elites. We are the 99%-OWS.

          by emal on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 12:18:19 PM PDT

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          •  They never said anything so absolute (0+ / 0-)

            Wow -- now you sound just like The Glenn Most Beloved Dear Leader Greenwald.  No one ever claimed every terrorist, ever, anywhere, would no longer be intercepted with this technology.

            Exaggerate much?  Wonder where you picked that up.

            •  look. If u don't like this guy, Greenwald, (0+ / 0-)

              I think u should write a series of diaries-maybe 1 a day pointing out his fibs, faults, flaws, failings and flagrant fraud; so everyone will know he's no good and can't be trusted.

              However, mr snowden's occasional remarks deserve objective consideration.

              Might also turn out mr greenwald has warped into a different persona from years of diligence become angry and consumed with the urge to wound back against the steady lying fortress of horror which some of us have been witness to for how long can you remember?

              But, he's not a militarist or a spy so he can't be more important than the stories we don't ever get happily ever afters to.

              Don Benedetto was murdered.-IgnazioSilone(BreadAndWine)

              by renzo capetti on Tue Aug 06, 2013 at 01:16:57 PM PDT

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            •  Oh, for Pete's sake. (0+ / 0-)

              Can't you keep your conspiracy theories straight, even a little bit? I'm actually finding myself hoping you're doing contract PR work for the NSA on this disinfo project instead of OFA. Who, I'd like to think in my mellower moments, at least still have Democratic souls in there somewhere.

              If credibility mattered to you, you would have realized days ago that your tac isn't working. Maybe tried another, more oblique approach to the wind...

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