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    Tuba Les

    it IS possible to be omnipotent and omniscient. It's just not possible, in a world where evil exists to ALSO claim to be all good. If you are all good and omniscient and omnipotent, then you would have to eliminate evil which would be a doddle for an omnipotent God.

    So, God is, all good, omnipotent, omniscient: Pick two

    If he is all good and omniscient then he cannot be omnipotent since evil exists and must be powerful enough to prevent God from stopping it.

    If he is all good and omnipotent then he cannot be omniscient because the only way evil can exist is if an all-powerful good God doesn't know about it.

    If God is both omnipotent and omniscient, then he cannot be all good because he allows evil he could easily stop and clearly knows about to exist.

    To claim that God is omnipotent, omniscient and all good and STILL allows evil to exist in order to "Teach us something" or for a "greater good" is simply bizarre. Even humans can come up with teaching methods that do not require punishment and evil. Not to mention, how can the existence of evil contribute to a greater good?

    •  No, you cant be omnipotent and omniscient. (0+ / 0-)

      If God is omnipotent, then he can take any person and give him omniscience and omnipotence. He can give this person fake memories that make him think he is god, and knowledge of everything in the universe except for the existence of the real god.

      If that's possible, then God has no way of knowing that another omnipotent being didn't do the same thing to him.

      Snarka snarka snarka!

      by Hunter Huxley on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 06:24:38 PM PDT

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      •  Didn't that movie (0+ / 0-)

        have Morgan Freeman and Jim Carrey?

        Of course there is always the question of, can an omnipotent God make a rock so big even he can't lift it? Either he can make the rock or he can lift it but he can't do both, thus proving he cannot be omnipotent.

        But this all goes back to the fallacy of human beings trying to define "god." We began, no one knows when and possibly even before we were true humans, by endowing the natural world with demiurges, spirits of wind and rain tree and predator. We turned these spirits in our minds into Gods, of the sun, the moon, the seas, the hunt, and so on. Eventually someone came up with the idea that if there can be a chief god, there must be a chief god of all chief gods and that is MY god, which gives me the right to rule all you worshippers of lesser gods. SInce then we have larded the "one true god" with all sorts of baggage, not the least of which is omnipotence, omniscience, etc. Sort of the way DC allowed Superman's powers to get away from them back in the silver age. But religion cannot retcon God, can they? It's all holy writ. So we're left with trying to define God using terms designed to give one set of priests political power over other sets of priests and ridiculous claims of super-duper goddery. It's all intended to force YOU to obey god's favorite, ME, anyway, isn't it?

        The only things of which we can be truly certain is: No human religion, no human priest, can ever possibly know anything about the actual mind of god.

        There may be a god, but you will never find him in a church.

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