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  •  Yes and yes (1+ / 0-)
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    betterdemsonly

    It seems clear that someone who is able to work should be given all needed assistance so that working makes more sense for them than avoiding work. If this means subsidies, added benefits, free childcare, free transportation, etc then we should do that. Fiscally, it makes more sense to pay a bit to supplement the wages of a low wage worker than to pay the entire freight for their sustenance. In addition, it helps the economy by pumping more money into the pool. But, forcing someone to work sounds a bit questionable to me. Some cannot work (physical and mental disabilities are common reasons) and for some the equation will simply never balance.

    Of course, if we had a true living wage then most of this would be moot.

    •  When you say "full freight" (10+ / 0-)

      let me give you this one bit of information. When the AFDC program was dissolved in favor of TANF (under welfare reform), it was mentioned that the entire AFDC national program made up 1% of the federal budget. For 1% of the budget, it sure gets a lot of attention. Why? Because it turns people against people.

    •  One thing I can't understand is how people who (2+ / 0-)
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      Onomastic, betterdemsonly

      are so against welfare and the idea that "their" tax dollars are used to help the poor and disabled are perfectly fine with subsidizing corporations like Walmart that rake in billions in profit yet pay their workers so little that they're forced to seek public assistance in one way or another.

    •  I actually work in the disability community (0+ / 0-)

      with a focus on creating employment opportunities for people with disabilities.  I can assure you that the overwhelming majority of PWD have skills and the desire to work.  But they most often aren't given a chance.

      Yes, they sometimes need reasonable accomodations.  Yes, they need to have their work tailored to their abilities.  But the percentage of PWD that cannot contribute anything to help their fellow man is really low.  If PWD can be productive members of society there is every reason to believe that most other people can also help out.

      I would argue that we are all in this together and that everyone has something to contribute.  We should create systems that encourage added value creation instead of systems that encourage not working.  In addition, the added value should be of direct benefit to the most disadvantaged in society.   Alas, many people continue to see this through a left-right prism and so, as I said before, the left wing will reject it and the right wing will reject it.  One because it isn't socialist enough and the other because it is too "socialist".

      I, on the other hand, think that it is far better than the status quo but I no doubt underestimate the difficulty in getting such a system up and running.

      We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

      by theotherside on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 05:02:26 AM PDT

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