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  •  Try cooperatives...look up Mondragon etc (4+ / 0-)

    Gar Alperovitz has a book out on what next that offers systems that are viable and have a track record.  You just don't hear much about them...cause they aren't on the corporate radar.

    Try State Banks: read Ellen Brown's books.  

    Dollarocracy is not Democracy

    by leema on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 02:15:48 PM PDT

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    •  I understand that one can sit down and (1+ / 0-)
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      propose all kinds of wonderful and plausible ideas in theory.

      But in reality they don't tend to work out all that well for any number of reasons - in most cases simply due to human nature (read: greed).

      •  Guess you didn't look up Mondragon. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        Dollarocracy is not Democracy

        by leema on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 02:46:50 PM PDT

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      •  Human's are not naturally "greedy." (2+ / 0-)
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        That's a cartoon version of human nature created by the people it benefits the most:

        The 1%.

        In reality, that 1% is greedy, the alphas, the sociopaths, whereas most of us are fine with getting by, living in peace, trying to enjoy life.

        Humans actually lived communally for their first 200,000 years on the planet. We are "naturally" a social people, given to sharing, given to cooperation. We just have this highly aggressive, often vicious alpha class that has tried to ram a vision of human nature down our throats that really only fits for them.

        And they've succeeded all too well.

        It's a great trick, too. Make your own sociopathology the "norm" and it sustains your ability to be a sociopath.

        •  What's worse, it's contagious (2+ / 0-)
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          or at least it makes it easier for other sociopaths to climb to the top of the ladder and become excessively influential - and pretty soon you have a kakistocracy (rule by the worst).

          There's a book, Political Ponerology, which tries to explain it, but the author's own history sounds just a leetle teeny bit paranoid...possibly with some reason.

          http://www.ponerology.com/

          If it's
          Not your body,
          Then it's
          Not your choice
          And it's
          None of your damn business!

          by TheOtherMaven on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 09:59:11 PM PDT

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