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  •  Ironically, hybrids were used big seed (2+ / 0-)

    companies in much the same way as GMOs are today.  Hybridization also facilitates patenting of varieties and prevents farmers from growing their own seed.

    To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

    by sneakers563 on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 02:07:44 PM PDT

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    •  Hybridization (7+ / 0-)

      does not infect neighbors fields with poisonous crops.

      I wish the GM advocates would stop the false equivalency of hybridization with genetic modification.

      It is incorrect and ignorant to continue to spread false 'facts' that prevent people who are just coming up to speed on this issue to understand the true nature of the issue at hand.

      'A scarlet tanager broke the silence with his song. She thought of the bird hidden in the leaves somewhere, unseen but nevertheless brilliant red. Nevertheless beautiful.' Barbara Kingsolver/ Prodigal Summer

      by flowerfarmer on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 03:39:02 PM PDT

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      •  I'm not a GM advocate (2+ / 0-)

        I'm saying that elements of this fight predate GM crops, and if you're concerned with the rights of farmers, hybridized seeds are not a panacea.  The fact is that hybridization was used by seed companies as a way to restrict the agency of farmers in much the same way as GM crops are today.  

        If you're interested, Kloppenburg's "First the Seed: The Political Economy of Plant Biotechnology" is a classic history of those struggles.

        To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

        by sneakers563 on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 03:54:19 PM PDT

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        •  As a farmer, (10+ / 0-)

          i plant open-pollinated heirloom crops exclusively.

          Hybridization of similar species do not infringe upon my ability to save pure seed from my crops, provided that my neighbor does not plant his Burpee garden right on top of mine- but that is why my garden is far from other crops.

          Preserving diversity in germ plasm is of utmost importance to the future of food crops the world over, in order to prevent a nightmare like the monocropped Irish potatoes.

          'A scarlet tanager broke the silence with his song. She thought of the bird hidden in the leaves somewhere, unseen but nevertheless brilliant red. Nevertheless beautiful.' Barbara Kingsolver/ Prodigal Summer

          by flowerfarmer on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 04:04:18 PM PDT

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          •  I'm not arguing that (1+ / 0-)
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            However, the comparative paucity of available heirloom varieties today is a direct result of the introduction and promotion of hybridized varieties in the 1930's.  Further, the promotion of hybridization brought along with it a wide range of negative economic and environmental
            consequences including regional inequality, the near-disappearance of the the family farm, genetic erosion, reliance of chemical inputs, and monoculture farming, to name just a few.

            Look, we agree about GM crops.  My only point is that the fight is larger than just GM crops.  This is a struggle that has been going on for decades, and I think it's worth remembering that.  If you don't care about anything before 1990, that's fine.  I'm just pointing it out.

            To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

            by sneakers563 on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 04:21:27 PM PDT

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            •  There are many sources for heirlooms... (7+ / 0-)

              Comprehensive list includes

              Fedco Seeds
              Native Seed SEARCH
              Johhnys Select Seeds
              Baker Creek
              High Mowing Seeds
              and many more.

              There are farmers from every country dedicated to the preservation of regional varieties and are easily found with a couple of keystrokes. It's just that the big seed company marketing apparatus is much more robust, altho i have seen an emergence of smaller seed company heirloom offerings beginning to show up in non- big box venues.

              Hybridization initially was a positive force, allowing farmers to maximize tonnage of crops , often at the expense of taste.

              And the ability to save seed in very impoverished nations is the only way those farmers could exist.
              Saving hybrid seed is as useless to the subsistence farmer as saving any GM seed.

              Most backyard gardeners discover the advantages of growing the heirlooms that, more often than not, are more flavorful.

              'A scarlet tanager broke the silence with his song. She thought of the bird hidden in the leaves somewhere, unseen but nevertheless brilliant red. Nevertheless beautiful.' Barbara Kingsolver/ Prodigal Summer

              by flowerfarmer on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 05:16:36 PM PDT

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    •  Hybrids don't breed true. (2+ / 0-)
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      Almost any farmer or backyard gardener could tell you seed-saving of hybrids is an exercise in futility.

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