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  •  One thing the GMO experiment (3+ / 0-)

    has demonstrated is that transgenes are promiscuous. Readily infect non-GMO fields and related plants growing nearby, and defeat proper crop rotations by producing super-weeds that RoundUp just can't kill. I use the word "infect" on purpose, as the technology involves the use of some nasty plant disease virus segments to facilitate insertion of the transgenes, along with excess promoter segments to ensure it gets expressed in every cell of the GMO.

    It doesn't take a visionary to imagine what could happen if Monsanto/USDA actually deployed their terminator technology. Nightmares and bad Sci-Fi movies are spun from not-so great ideas like this...

    •  That's An Impressive Amount Of Derp (1+ / 0-)
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      1) Aren't you happy about Roundup resistance?  Roundup  will be going away in a few years, to be replaced by genuinely nasty stuff.  Woot!

      2) "Nasty viral sequences?"  How big?  What species? "Nasty" how?  You're setting yourself up as the authority, and I'm not doing your homework for you.

      3) "It doesn't take a visionary to imagine"  no, please continue. Spin us a yarn about how sterility is going to be inherited.  

      Men are so necessarily mad that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness -Pascal

      by bernardpliers on Thu Aug 08, 2013 at 07:18:30 PM PDT

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      •  What's "derp"? (3+ / 0-)
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        1) The genuinely nasty stuff is already used, in ever-increasing amounts, because the weeds are increasingly RoundUp resistant. 2,4-D and worse, even.

        2) One notable is cauliflower mosaic virus. But there's worse out there.

        3) Yo, I said the transgenes are promiscuous. You know what those are, don't you? You'd get no crop if you plant dead seeds or seeds for plants with infertile pollen. There's a one-off generational delay there, and the promoters aren't 100% efficient. As for the scary Sci-Fi, use your own imagination if you've got one. Mine's busy.

      •  Some GMOs produce pesticides (like Roundup) (1+ / 0-)
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        inside the plants, and animals fed those crops have been found to have bacteria in their guts that keep producing Roundup.  Nobody's checked us yet, that I know of ...

        Roundup is not good for animals or people or our beneficial gut bacteria.

    •  Sorry but, I have to correct you. (0+ / 0-)

      Agrobacterium tumefaciens is what does it. Its a bacteria that inserts a segment of DNA into a plant cell.

      This bacteria has existed in nature for a very, very long amount of time. There's nothing scary about it.

      I don't want to sound mean but viruses and bacteria are very different. So if you weren't correct about which of them was doing this, its likely you have other misconceptions.

      "Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to seize the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth."

      by kamrom on Fri Aug 09, 2013 at 06:34:00 AM PDT

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