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  •  So we're supposed to take the "facts" from (3+ / 0-)
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    an entity dedicated to promoting the manufacturer's interests?  I am sure they use actual data and twist it to fit their mission of selling more guns [e.g. on page 2 they say " the number of unintentional fatalities involving firearms (excluding homicide and suicide) has dropped by 60 percent" - now if their facts were so correct, why the big caveat?  In any case they only cover deaths, not injuries and they even fail to mention that nearly half of the deaths in the period 2005–2010 were under 25 years of age (1300 out of 3800).]

    Numbers don't lie, but liars do figure, especially when their mission is to sell more product.

    •  I won't reply at length but direct you to look at (1+ / 0-)
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      their sources. The topic they address is unintentional firearm death and injury. They do list injuries in a different place, just look.

      Normally you are on my do not respond list.

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      by ban nock on Fri Aug 09, 2013 at 09:08:02 AM PDT

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    •  They also don't include the (1+ / 0-)
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      "undetermined" firearm fatalities.

      Another way that report is a bit biased. They calculate non-fatal injury rates for other sports, where participation is much, much higher, to fatal injury rates involving accidental discharge of a firearm.

      Think of it this way - you put your kid in a soccer league and he/she practices soccer 3 times a week and plays 20 games a season, all of it highly supervised by coaches and other parents. Kids get hurt, but seldom is it fatal.

      Contrast to gymnastics participation, which is declining too. Schools don't want to pay the insurance anymore, because gymnastics injuries can be so much more serious than other sports.

      Compare those to hunting, where you teach your kid to shoot, practice a half a dozen times, and then take them out with you. You may be an experienced hunter, but are you an experienced firearms instructor? Are you willing to make your kid practice safety procedures again and again and again, day in and day out, the way a soccer coach makes kids run up and down the field until they drop.

      Hunting is relatively safe but the injury and death rates can be made to appear lower by averaging over the whole population, 2/3 of which don't even own any firearms.

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      by LilithGardener on Fri Aug 09, 2013 at 01:03:35 PM PDT

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