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  •  I want to know how they can restrict themselves to (6+ / 0-)

    emails only into and out of the country if people are using servers in the US to communicate, like a Gmail account.  Someone sending an email from and to a Gmail account doesn't have to cross international boundaries.  Now if someone logs in from a foreign IP address to read the email through a web browser, is that when the NSA determines the web traffic is an email and that email is headed to the foreign IP and that's when they say they can read it?  What about if the sender and receiver are both using US IP addresses, but the content contains the name of a foreign person of interest?  It seems from some of the revelations that email will be flagged as well.

    At this point, I have to assume that all emails, texts, calls, video, web traffic and everything else that travels over the Internet is being collected, scanned and archived for further examination when someone or some machine determines there's a need to do that.  I don't see how there's any other way this Total Information Awareness exists.

    •  Agreed (6+ / 0-)

      There really isn't any other conclusion to come to. The systems and processes the government spokespersons have described simply do not work unless they hoover up absolutely everything on everyone. They don't have any idea what communications are inside or outside of the United States anymore than you do when you call a customer service telephone number.

      And especially now that these revelations have been rightly brought to light.  Any self-respecting anarchist or "terrorist" would simply get a VPN in the USA and do all their secret communications within the United States because aha! the USA can't spy on their communications there!  Muwwwaaahahahahahaa!

      Seriously, do these government spokespeople really think we'll buy that "only communications traveling across the border" are being monitored? It simply doesn't work and would be a laughable, useless program if that truly were the case.

      And to be perfectly clear, I definitely have a problem with my government capturing and cataloging and indexing every single phone call, e-mail, meta data, web browsing, etc. and I don't care if they can't get to it "unless they have a really good reason" or not.

      [Terrorists] are a dime a dozen, they are all over the world and for every one we lock up there will be three to take his place. --Digby

      by rabel on Fri Aug 09, 2013 at 10:50:42 AM PDT

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