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  •  Imagine a world with two lifeboats (28+ / 0-)

    That can hold two of three things:

    1. very rich people
    2. everybody else
    3. all the very rich people's bling

    Oh, important caveat:

    The very rich get to decide which two of three get saved.

    •  The very rich (6+ / 0-)

      don't quite seem to get a few facts, though...

      1)  The not very rich outnumber them at least 99 to 1
      2)  The guards they hire are in the 99.
      3)  The families of the guards they hire are also in the 99 and not working for the 1.
      4)  The guards probably like/love their family a lot more than the 1.

      Ultimately, my bet's on #2, but by that time the number of people will be far lower, there won't be any more in group #1 because they'll have been ruined by the chaos caused by #2's reduction in number, and most of #3 will be burned in the chaos as well.

      Or, nobody wins, but thanks for playing.  Next intelligent species, please!  Who do we have, Wink?  Oh, a nice lizard species from Altair!

      (-6.38, -7.03) Moderate left, moderate libertarian

      by Lonely Liberal in PA on Sat Aug 10, 2013 at 07:58:05 PM PDT

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      •  There are in the records of ancient Egyptian (4+ / 0-)

        a number of periods called intermediates, when there were natural disasters such as the explosion of Santorrini when  "the guards abandoned their posts to plunder". In times like those when it was more or less every man for themselves, things like food distribution networks ceased to function.

        Nobody dug irrigation ditches to bring the inundation to the fields, nobody plowed, or weeded or stored bread and beer or grain for future sowing, domesticated animals were not tended.

        Eventually a lot of people got sick and died, others raided their neighbors to take what little they had, opportunistic neighbors moved in to take whatever was left unguarded.

        Plato had a friend whose great grandfather had heard tales from the Egyptian priests at the great Emporia at Sais who could then still read the records of the events, that sometimes the disasters came on with great rapidity and cities sank beneath the waves in a single day and night.

        We may be getting close to seeing for ourselves.

        Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

        by rktect on Sun Aug 11, 2013 at 04:56:48 AM PDT

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        •  interesting... unfortunately our scale will be (1+ / 0-)
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          global

          We Must DISARM THE NRA The next life you save may be ONE OF YOUR OWN!

          by SeaTurtle on Sun Aug 11, 2013 at 07:00:14 AM PDT

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          •  Remember, to the Ancient Egyptians, (1+ / 0-)
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            these events WERE global.

            "My case is alter'd, I must work for my living." Moll Cut-Purse, The Roaring Girl - 1612, England's First Actress

            by theRoaringGirl on Sun Aug 11, 2013 at 08:55:25 AM PDT

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            •  I agree that there were several "global" disasters (0+ / 0-)

              24,000 BC something caused the extinction of the Neanderthals, who as we learn more about them appear to have been 99.99% the same as Homo Sapiens and may have interbred with them.

              16,000 BC the Persian Gulf began to flood as the end of the ice age caused sea levels to rise. A route connecting Africa with India across an Arabian savanna disappeared.

              It took 12,000 years for the breach in the Straits of Hormuz to reach Mesopotamia but there was nowhere to run. There was flooding in the Black Sea, the Mediterranean, major rivers were flooding everywhere and river mouths were where most people hunted and gathered, fished, domesticated animals and developed agriculture.

              Santorinni affected most of the beaker civilizations in southern Europe as well as the Mediterranean cultures and Egypt.

              Later papyri document everything from incursions of the neighbors to widespread plagues, famines and pestilence. The lesson for us is that civilizations can be fragile and when they crash it looks a lot more like Katrina than Sandy.

              Live Free or Die --- Investigate, Incarcerate

              by rktect on Sun Aug 11, 2013 at 04:31:18 PM PDT

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      •  Feel obliged to warn against what could be... (0+ / 0-)

        ...misconstrued as cheerleading for plunder - not your post, per se, but the meme that 'boy, sure gonna be satisfying when the people rise up'.

        And perhaps there's a rhetorical karmic wishful thinking going on and nothing's to be read further into such postings.

        Thing is, history suggests that 'times of changes' are not fun places to be an outspoken intellectual.

        In such eras, they're the first that the mobs seek out to string up.

        Which always has me wondering why winger pundits openly call for, ahem, remedies that if employed would not necessarily discriminate between who is right-wing smart  and left-wing smart.

        Mobs, generally speaking, get around to killing them all.

        Something more than a few social revolutions have demonstrated which, it should be noted, the American Revolution was not (pre- and post-Revolution leadership class was almost exactly the same, only the flags changed).

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