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  •  I do disagree (0+ / 0-)

    If something is believable, one doesn't need faith to believe it.   If something is provable, it doesn't need faith to believe it.  Only something which CANNOT be proved (as opposed to not based upon proof) required faith.

    As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

    by BPARTR on Mon Aug 12, 2013 at 11:26:43 AM PDT

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    •  You conflate "believable" and "provable". (0+ / 0-)

      Belief can be rooted in proof OR faith.

      Science is man's attempt to explain the universe through natural phenomena.

      Religion is man's attempt to explain the universe through supernatural phenomena

      The two need not be in conflict.

      The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

      by wesmorgan1 on Mon Aug 12, 2013 at 11:58:52 AM PDT

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      •  well, I agree with that (0+ / 0-)

        I just do not see any need to resort to "supernatural" explanations when natural ones suffice.

        Personally, I would not wish to live in a world where the laws of nature can be suspended at any time by a capricious and apparently malevolent god who we are told cares deeply about the outcome of high school football games but seems to be unmoved by immense suffering caused by disease, tornadoes, tsunamis , volcanoes and so on.  Imagine if the sun really could stand still in the sky and what that would do.

        As my father used to say,"We have the best government money can buy."

        by BPARTR on Mon Aug 12, 2013 at 06:18:20 PM PDT

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        •  You're free to make that decision. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm free to make a different decision.

          That doesn't mean you're ignorant, and it doesn't mean I'm irrational.  In fact, I find quite the balance between science and faith; so, too, did folks like Newton, Hahn, Mendel, Faraday, and Descartes.  I certianly don't claim to be at their level (pause while everyone who knows me gives loud agreement), but I don't think that either of us would call those folks "irrational" or label them with any of the other denigrating terms so frequently applied to religious believers on this site solely because of their religious belief.

          We need to measure each other primarily by what we each say and do, not by generic labels, stereotypes and insult.   That's really all I ask.

          The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

          by wesmorgan1 on Tue Aug 13, 2013 at 10:04:09 AM PDT

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