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  •  You know, that's easy to say, but how much or (3+ / 0-)
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    little restraint did they really show?

    The Egyptian Govt. just stated that 43 police officers and soldiers were killed today.

    If these numbers are true, it shows quite a different picture from what the Muslim Brotherhood is trying to paint.  You're not going to see those kinds of casualties among security services if they're just facing demonstrators.

    In fact, I think it's pretty safe to say that there would be hell to pay even in any liberal democracy if some hardcore religious group were responsible for the deaths of that many police and soldiers in a single day.

    I think that most pro-Morsi demonstrators likely were non-violent people demonstrating in good faith, but there obviously were some people amongst them who were not.  You don't have that many police and army dying if they're not also being attacked with firearms.

    "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

    by Lawrence on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 12:23:46 PM PDT

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    •  The violence is not just in Cairo (1+ / 0-)
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      When news of the massacre spread, people took to the streets across Egypt and from what I heard, some police were on the run as they were facing angry mobs of Egyptians.

      In the coming days, information, hopefully will become more clear.

      But what the security forces did was not popular for many Egyptians and outside of Cairo and depending on who you speak to, Alexandria, the Muslim Brother has strong support and people are armed and angry.

      I do not think I can blame people, really.  There was a coup, people were killed during Ramadan while praying and now this.  They are pissed.  How long shall they be stepped on?

      With such confusions don't it make you wanna scream - MJ

      by Janeo on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 02:50:33 PM PDT

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      •  The Muslim Bortherhood will, naturally, want to (1+ / 0-)
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        call it a massacre.

        There is, however, also footage out there that clearly shows some "protesters" using guns, including machine guns.

        I'm not sure that the support for the Muslim Brotherhood is as strong as you seem to think it is.

        Time will tell.

        "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

        by Lawrence on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 03:24:50 PM PDT

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        •  It was a massacre (0+ / 0-)

          A few people with guns out of the thousands who had no guns still did not justify the action in my mind.  

          And I believe that there is support for the MB, coupled with pro democracy groups that is growing daily.  The protest camp, for at least I know in Rabaa was growing with a mixture of groups.  And the show of such force was not just a message for the MB, it was a message to anyone who was against the coup.

          The MB is not a marginal group, it has a lot of support.

          With such confusions don't it make you wanna scream - MJ

          by Janeo on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 07:10:41 PM PDT

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