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    chimene, stevemb

    I have fairly severe asthma because my parents wouldn't quit smoking around me. So does my brother.

    My little sister, who they did quit for, is fine.

    But I guess I somehow deserved the lifelong lung damage? I still can't go out in cold (40°F or below), or humid, air, without needing my inhaler.

    what's obscene, again?

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    by LoreleiHI on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 05:56:37 PM PDT

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    •  Most children of smokers... (5+ / 0-)

      Myself included, would not have wished to be removed from our parents' home because they smoked. Just a guess.

      I am sorry that you have had health issues. Still think it's an awful reason to remove children from a home.

      •  But wouldn't you be better off (1+ / 0-)
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        SixSixSix

        if your parents had smoked outside?

        That's what I was getting at. Sorry that I didn't make that clear! And if a child is medically fragile (I was), shouldn't everything be done to keep the child safe? Do you keep an infant on a nebulizer in a home with a chain smoker, if the smoker flat refuses to smoke outside? Who is more important? The smoker or the child?

        These are not hypotheticals. They are every day questions.

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        by LoreleiHI on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 07:16:20 PM PDT

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        •  I don't have kids... But I get you... (2+ / 0-)
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          JesseCW, spacecadet1

          If I did, I would smoke outside, most of the time anyway, and if possible, have a dedicated room for smoking, even a garage, so that I could watch my games or TV and have a puff at the same time.

          I just feel like I'm really blessed to have the mother I have. It breaks my heart to think that people would consider her a bad mother or think she shouldn't have custody of my brother and I as kids because she smoked in our apartment. It's obviously not good for kids, but I don't think people should be demonized or subject to law enforcement for doing it. Education is working. Not for every kid, but it's working.

          •  Times change (1+ / 0-)
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            SixSixSix

            When I was a kid, it was perfectly normal to let your kids drive around in the back of the pickup truck and drive home without a safety belt with your newborn in your lap in the front seat .  It doesn't mean those people were bad parents, but now we (should) know better.

    •  It's one thing when it's a factor in granting (1+ / 0-)
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      spacecadet1

      custody to a grandparent.

      The second it winds up with kids going to foster care, shit's gone to far.

      One night in a receiving home would make it clear why.

      Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

      by JesseCW on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 03:52:58 AM PDT

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