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  •  We Had This Same Attitude At This Time in 2009 (8+ / 0-)

    and it proved catastrophic for us.

    At some point we need to allow for the possibility that they know how to win midterms.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 10:24:46 AM PDT

    •  I'm pretty sure the Pubs will win the midterms. (8+ / 0-)

      They don't seem to be in trouble in the House, and the Dems look to lose seats in the Senate.
         The Democrats need to come up with something better than "the Republicans are worse."

    •  Stop believing the hype (2+ / 0-)
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      I wish we'd stop believing this bullshit idea that the GOP excels at midterms.  In the last 20 they won 3 in alternating misheard.  They won the 94 Contract on America, 2002 post 9/11 election and 2010 the Year of The Teabagging Nutsacks.  It's the Democrats turn to win.  

      We really need to stop pissing in our beer and being nervous nellies.

      This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

      by DisNoir36 on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 10:57:38 AM PDT

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      •  Um, that's 3 of the last 5 . . . n/t (0+ / 0-)

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 12:05:44 PM PDT

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        •  And? (0+ / 0-)

          Look at the trend

          1994 - GOP won
          1998 - GOP lost
          2002 - GOP won
          2006 - GOP lost
          2010 - GOP won
          2014 - ???

          See a pattern developing?

          Polling indicates the Dems are ahead by high single digits.  May not be enough to get the majority due to gerrymandering and voter suppression efforts but it's a win nonetheless.  There are NO indications whatsoever that the GOP will increase their majority in the House or gain the majority in the Senate.  So frankly worrying about it at this point is really stupid and counterproductive.

          This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

          by DisNoir36 on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 04:53:59 PM PDT

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          •  Numbers don't tell this story (0+ / 0-)

            too convincingly for me. 2010, for example, followed the most dramatic breakdown of party favorables in many a decade, thanks to the economic meltdown and their sheer incompetence. And they won a freaking majority of the House anyway, after only 2 years. Do you really think that's because it was "their turn"?
            Oh, and if you are looking at the House, they didn't lose it in 1998, either; they held the House from 1995-2007. Not having the majority there is paramount; gaining seats without getting the majority is no "win" in my book, but I guess YMMV. So when I look at the House, all I see is a Republican fiefdom since '94, except for a 4 year gap, which is unlikely to change until 2016, if then. 10-2 is a record anyone would love to have.
            Given that a party only needs one of the Senate, House, and the Presidency to achieve complete gridlock--and given that gridlock favors the party who advocates for governmental incompetence, you'll have to forgive me if I'm not the one who should be feeling stupid.

            "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

            by bryduck on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 12:45:48 PM PDT

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