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  •  It's nothing like a semantic game. It's a (2+ / 0-)
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    fundemental mindset.

    It's Bush speaking at a Reservation saying to a Tribal Goverment "We gave you your sovereignty".

    You don't get it. It's already theirs.  

    Most Americans don't get that.  There is a deeply rooted cultural belief that all of what was once Mandatory Palestine belongs to Israel.  

    This is pervasive even among those who think Israel should "give" some land to Palestinians in the name of peace.

    There's no giving.  There's just returning what was taken.  It's not largess.  It's not laudatory. It's not generous.

    Mr. Universe is a known degenerate Robotophile, and his sources include former Browncoat Traitors. What is their agenda in leaking top secret information about the Reavers and endangering us all?

    by JesseCW on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 08:14:14 PM PDT

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    •  Legally speaking (0+ / 0-)

      there has never been a Palestinian state, just as there wasn't an Israeli one till 1947. From a legal point of view, statehood is granted, not returned. Land is returned, but land isn't statehood. You are confusing moral with legal status.

      And only an ignorant person believes that all of mandatory Palestine was legally Israel's. The 1947 lines were pretty clear, even though the became moot and now the 1967 lines are internationally recognized.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 08:34:47 PM PDT

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    •  At the UN, who voted Yes? Who voted No? (0+ / 0-)

      Put the country votes on a map. How was it a legitimate vote when the current inhabitants didn't vote "yes"? When there was no compensation or land swaps negotiated?

      Most of the crap wars USA are fighting, declared or not, are because the Corporations who manipulate the congress votes, want to buy resources cheap, or pay cheap for resources the owners don't want to sell, and USA military & "contractors" are to be the enforcers. Entitlement behavior all around.

      Giving birth (giving life) should be a gift not an obligation or women and poor people are 2nd class by definition

      by julifolo on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 08:39:43 PM PDT

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