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  •  Do you remember who Neville Chamberlin was? (10+ / 0-)

    Ever since Obama entered the White House, it's been concession after concession to pander to "ALL Americans". Meanwhile the ones that actually hold the purse strings to the Federal Government  - the House of Representatives - has kept a financial and legislative tourniquet around Obama's cajones and refuses to let go. The rest of us who used to be called  "The Middle Class" remain the victims of these louts nationally, and a majority in Arizona voted to have neocons represent them in a government they hate, led by a man they detest.

    The main problem all along has been that Democrats generally - and Obama specifically - have not grasped the idea that someone whose feet happen to come in contact with North American soil does not instantly turn them into patriots who feel a duty to participate in the established American system of government. Using that definition alone, I personally consider people like McCain, Flake, Eric Cantor, Saxby Chambliss, Mitch McConnell, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, Janet Brewster, John Boener, Paul Ryan and the rest of them are enemy combatants: they actively seek to destroy the elected government of the United States by crippling its economy in order to institute their own form of government - exactly for the same philosophical reason that Osama Bin Laden flew those two aircraft into the World Trade Center. The only difference is that instead of hitting hard targets, these traitors are using the general stupidity of the voting public as their weapon of mass destruction.

    It's one thing to "claim responsibility" for an act - and another thing altogether to "accept the consequences" of it. If the majority of Arizona's voters wanted Tea Party representation, they should receive the consequences of their choice.

    •  Elections have consequences... (5+ / 0-)

      ...And you should reap the idiocy you sow, sure. But it's hard to think of all the people who DIDN'T vote for those morons, but may now have to suffer for it.

      •  Think of the people who will suffer in the future (0+ / 0-)

        If you don't stand up to Republicans now.  At least, by making a stand in this case, you are minimizing harm by picking a disaster where FEMA says that local government can handle the job.

      •  Those people were already suffering (0+ / 0-)

        at the hands of a government they didn't vote for.  Just as Democrats in NC are now subject to the same voter suppression, the same idiotic gun laws, the same suckhole education and the same soulless legislature as everybody else in the state.  We didn't vote for these guys, but a bunch of our neighbors sure did.  We get it.  And when there's no Federal money to help recover from the floods of earlier this year, we know why.  And it isn't because Barry O is trying to teach NC a lesson, it's simply that those floods were within the state/local means and the federal dollars were going to have to be used on bigger disasters.  Which, if the forecasters are correct, we very well may get to find out about come September and prime hurricane season.

        I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

        by mojo11 on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 02:01:15 PM PDT

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    •  My champion of choice would be the man you dismiss (3+ / 0-)

      I don't think the President panders.  The President for all the hatred and demonization thrown at him is going to turn the tide on John Birch society scheming by convincing more people than we can now imagine to go the way of respecting, empowering and including one another in this national community.  He can succeed where someone else could not because of who he is.

      The thing is the only thing that can overcome evil (and I agree what you have described is evil) is good.  

      •  A little Faith Based politics, there ? (0+ / 0-)
        He can succeed where someone else could not because of who he is.
        I guess that begs the question: "When will he start?"

        Not to mention:  "And just who IS he ?"

        (I keep clapping but Tinkerbell is still playing dead. )

      •  How sweet - how sincere- WHAT A LOAD OF HOOEY. (0+ / 0-)

        Only a fool sticks flowers in the rifle barrels of jack-booted thugs and expects that nothing will happen - especially when they have their finger on the trigger and it's aimed at your forehead. Kent State happened 40 years ago and nothing has changed - in fact, it's gotten worse. Wake up!

        This President has pandered, conceded and compromised on every single so-called "accomplishment" to which he lays claim.  He caved on the health care bill when he conceded the universal medicare proposal- and now in 2014, 4 years and almost 180,000 dead Americans later (projected at about 45,000 per year who have died because they couldn't afford decent health care), when it's finally supposed to fully kick in, key components are being delayed to pander to the insurance companies. (Now if some zealot from the Middle East killed that many Americans, the neocons would turn their country into a green glass-coated parking lot.) He's even caved on Social Security in order to entice neocons to accept a "grand bargain" - and still they have a tourniquet around his cajones and won't let up. It's pathetic.

        Thugs and bullies do not have any respect for or compromise with people who commit themselves to defend a principle and then cave in every time the whimpering and whining starts. His enemies don't have to love him, but if he showed the slightest inkling of taking a real stand against anything he'd talked about during his campaigns, his enemies could at least have grudging respect for him.

        Most of the invectives directed at him are brutal, cruel and bigoted, it's true - but he has brought some of it on himself. And now when he finally might be starting to show an inkling of conviction backed by action, we're starting to wring our hands over his poor widdle victims? In a state that elected practically a straight Tea Party ticket to represent them? GIVE ME A BREAK.

    •  Oh, please (0+ / 0-)

      The President is everyone's president, even the ones who didn't vote for him. Obama know this and understands it. Would you really rather he be like Mitt Romney with the famous words about 47% never voting for him so he doesn't care about them?

      Just another day in Oceania.

      by drshatterhand on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 09:05:37 AM PDT

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      •  I guess I just see it though another pair of eyes (0+ / 0-)

        In 2002 after Bush was anointed to be the Executive Chief Decider Person by the Neocon cabal in the Supreme Court, the real man behind the curtain - Cheney - held a meeting with the country's top petroleum industry executives, including one of his pet pals... Kenneth Lay at Enron. The outcome of that meeting has never been revealed, but the ensuing behavior of the industry gives us a pretty good idea of what was discussed.

        Other than the Iraq fiasco that promised $1.50 a gallon gasoline when it started, you may remember that California was one of the states where Bush was soundly trounced in that non-election. As they say, paybacks are hell: A month or so after that meeting there were rolling blackouts and the price of electricity doubled and in some cases tripled for us Californians - it even caused a few deaths because old people on fixed incomes couldn't afford to run air conditioners in the hot summer. It eventually resulted in the first recall vote, heavily financed by the corporate GOP that ousted our governor and replaced him with Arnold (hide your maid and your cigars) Schwartzenegger.

        See, I don't have anything against those five or six hundred people in Arizona that actually turned out to vote for someone other than Tea Party zombies. But every so often there comes a time when you have to take an actual stand against something you know is wrong and stick to it.

        Simply put - you don't aggressively deny someone assistance and then turn around and try to stick the very government you hate for a handout when something happens to you. At some point there have to be consequences associated with responsibility and one's avowed convictions.

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