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  •  You assume that Congress knows (7+ / 0-)

    what the secret interpretation is. A Wyden staffer says most don't know, and anyway, if they did they wouldn't be permitted to discuss it on the floor. In our Democracy. Congress, not allowed.

    How can you raise an objection in opposition to something when you're told you can't speak about it; nor do you know who else knows or doesn't know about it?

    “Congress and the public are prevented from having an informed, open debate on the Patriot Act because the official meaning of the law itself is secret,” Hoelzer wrote, quoting from a 2009 Huffington Post piece co-written by Wyden and Sen. Mark Udall, How Can Congress Debate a Secret Law? “Most members of Congress have not even seen the secret legal interpretations that the executive branch is currently relying on and do not have any staff who are cleared to read them. Even if these members come down to the Intelligence Committee and read these interpretations themselves, they cannot openly debate them on the floor without violating classification rules.”

    PS: Clapper already apologized for giving the "least untruthful" (his phrase) answer to Congress, so the quotes you put around lying are inappropriate. Some eight-year-old or a lawyer might say "least untruthful" but an adult using plain English would say "lying."

    Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

    by Jim P on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 06:49:32 PM PDT

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    •  You at least have to (1+ / 0-)
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      admire the sheer chutzpa of 'secret' interpretations here. The actual defined tasking of the NSA (Crone Wit cited above) is all about FOREIGN intelligence, just as the FISA court is all about FOREIGN intelligence.

      So what they've done is 'secretly' determine that the provisions of the laws that confine the activities and jurisdictions to be FOREIGN intelligence also means DOMESTIC intelligence. Clear as mud, see?


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