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  •  How about Hillary in 2016? (5+ / 0-)

    I like Russ Feingold, but Hillary can do something he can't do - win.

    The threat from the Republican party of destruction is so serious that it is time to be pragmatic and run candidates who can win, not candidates who we like but can't win.

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      "I like Russ Feingold, but Hillary can do something he can't do - win."

      Do you have any polling data suggesting only Hillary can win? Russ isn't seen as a rabid left wing attack dog like some other senators. He can easily run on a populist message with broad, even bipartisan appeal.

      Hell, I'd certainly give him a looksie in the primaries.

      Though, hmm, I would love it if he won his seat back from Ron Johnson in a few years. Sweet sweet justice that would be.

      •  I don't have polling data showing that (2+ / 0-)
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        Russ Feingold can't win, although any polling data at this point would not mean much.

        I think, however, that Hillary is the closest thing to a sure thing that the Dems have.  She is very popular, obviously has the name recognition, and appeals to working class white voters.

        I think that Russ Feingold will easily be painted as too Liberal.  I personally like that, but I don't think it will sell in a presidential election.  I certainly hope he takes back his senate seat, however.

        •  On the other hand, I could see Feingold (2+ / 0-)
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          or someone like him appealing more to independent voters.

          Don't underestimate the appeal of a "conviction candidate." Americans love to vote for someone who is perceived as standing up for the right thing.

          Also, after Obama was labelled a Kenyan Muslim Socialist and elected two times, I'm not sure how much more power the "too liberal" smear has.

      •  This is the mistake the republicans made (3+ / 0-)
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        with McCain and Romney picking someone they saw as an "electable" candidate but who didn't generate the enthusiasm.

        While I agree that there are some candidates that will never be accepted by the mainstream like Dennis Kucinich, I wouldn't put Feingold in that category as he won several times in the purple state of Wisconsin despite his more progressive stances.

        As for Hiliary, I certainly have a more positive view of her then I did the last time, but if she is nominated, don't think for a second she will have an easy ride given the republican hatred for the clintons.  They have had since Bill left office to gather dirt on Hilliary and I think that we are in for another campaign of swiftboat ads.  

    •  Just like 2008, and 2004, and... (0+ / 0-)

      Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

      by Simplify on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 10:14:53 PM PDT

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    •  "Pragmatic" has included (5+ / 0-)

      supporting the Iraq War for starters.  In reality, it's been a generation since anything except the strict corporatist agenda has been presented to the public as "pragmatism".

      What you say about the threat from Republicans for destruction is true, but the same threat exists from the "centrist" faction of the Democrats.  They share a clear and cohesive ideology with the explicitly right-wing Republican mainstream, the ideology of neoliberal capitalism.  Our centrist Dems have labeled that "pragmatism". It's a very narrow ideology, with no room for deviation from its central premise of the unchallenged and unfettered rule of big money.  

      The flip side of that hegemony of capital is the increasing precarity for all the rest of us.  To stop this process, which has only gained momentum from a "bipartisan" process, there needs to be a political defeat imposed on neoliberal philosophy in all its faces, or as we have already seen, it simply recoups itself.  Enough lathering, rinsing and repeating.  

      Clap On, Clap Off, The Clapper!

      by ActivistGuy on Wed Aug 14, 2013 at 10:59:55 PM PDT

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