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  •  Feingold has a very strong record to run on. (7+ / 0-)

    One of the most progressive records in the Senate, matter of fact.  I'd LOVE to see him run.

    If we want a Progressive President, the ONLY way to make that happen is to vote for one.  And this guy has an actual progressive record.  The fact that he's been out of politics for a few years says that he hasn't been triangulating everything and shining progressives on just to look good on the campaign trail.

    C'mon Russ, go for it!

    •  want to check out where you are coming from (2+ / 0-)
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      nadd2, sewaneepat

      Do you think Senator Feingold could beat many/most Republicans? Or is your argument similar to what I've heard before...something like "well if you don't try running a Progressive even if he can't win we'll never have a chance to vote our conscience".

      I think he very likely could not win (he's to obviously far to the left for the brainwashed multitudes who've been conditioned to think that that is a bad thing).

      I feel that we need to vote for whoever Dem can most likely beat the Republican, until that party comes back to the land or reality from its far right sojourn. This time I think it is more important to safeguard the safety net the Republicans want to dismantle and avoid causing thousands to millions of Americans suffering and death. I know that we've been in denial pretty much here on DK of the consequences if the Republicans get control of the House Senate and Presidency (there is a double digit probability, most likely, given the house gerrymandering and the Dems having more seats up for grabs than Reps in the Senate). But the reality is they are Hell Bent on slashing Medicaid, turning it into block grants, slashing food stamps, etc. Millions depend on Medicaid for their very life...for medicine and treatment that keeps them from dying. I personally know people, there are Kossacks who could die if they loose Medicaid. (such people cannot pay for insurance on exchanges even if they dont, also, end Obamacare).

      They cannot be allowed to win the Presidency in 2016. Lives are at stake and it isn't being discussed for what it is.

      I love Russ Feingold but would need to be convinced he had a good shot at beating the Rep nominee or prospective nominee before I chose him in a primary. I worry that too many would vote their heart (which is my heart too) and not think of the risk of defacto, with their votes, contributing to a Republican winning the WH and gutting the social safety net.

      •  I just don't really get this argument (3+ / 0-)
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        James Wells, CroneWit, RuralLiberal

        First of all, a Feingold candidacy is purely hypothetical at this point, and there hasn't been any polling, nor is most of the country even familiar with him.

        But what policies of his do you think would be "too liberal" for the American public? His support of campaign finance reform? His opposition to the War in Iraq? His support of gay marriage and right to choose?

        If you go policy by policy, you will not find a great deal of difference between Feingold's publicly stated policy positions, and the ones Obama ran on. The difference is not so much in terms of policy, but that someone like Feingold has a record of standing up for what he believes in and fighting for it.

        The "too liberal" trope is growing less and less relevant these days. If you look at polls, it's really the Republicans who are hurt by their party platform, not the Democrats.

      •  He beat republicans in a purple state several (1+ / 0-)
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        times with his progressive record so that shows he can do well with people who are not liberal.

        Yes, I know that he lost the last time, but he beat them several times before that.  

      •  First of all, we're talking about the Dem (0+ / 0-)

        Primaries, right?  Primaries  are for voting for your preferred progressive candidate.  General elections are for voting against the Republican.
        I repeat, the only way to get the progressive president we want and NEED (and one who has any interest in changing the status quo in a progressive direction) is to vote for one.
        You will never be convinced that Russ would have a good chance of winning the general, because you're already, 3years out, promoting that tired old lesser of two evils argument.   How about if you keep an open mind through the primaries before you decide who can win?  Democrats are highly unlikely to promote to general election candidate someone unqualified.  But Republicans actually ARE likely to put up an unqualified candidate who can't win the general.  You've already decided that the Democrat can only win by being the farthest to the right in the democratic field.  Or at least that's the impression you leave when you make that ridiculous argument this early in...I was going to say in the process, but the campaign season hasn't even started yet.

        •  primaries now a days are not only for voting (0+ / 0-)

          for the preferred candidate compared to eachother, especially for President.

          More strategic is, if you ultimately want a Democrat in office rather than a Republican, picking someone in the Dem primary you like who MOST importantly (if it is Most Important to you for a Republican to NOT get in office) could Beat The Republican nominee.

          I liked Hillary Clinton fine but was was curious about Obama so I read his books. I then saw how much anti Hillary (anti Women--they overlap) feeling there was that I think many Dems underestimate. HRC hooks some men's egos in a way that makes them resent her and I believe it comes from a subconscious prejudice against women for some men. I thought she could not beat McCain.

          SO I voted for Obama. Because ANY DEM was better than McCain. He was scary and impulsive around his VP choice and when the stock market took that dive. Dangerous.

    •  He voted against shutting down GITMO (0+ / 0-)

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