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  •  Millions more have jobs now than did at the depths (4+ / 0-)

    the recession in 2009.  That is good for millions of people.  While many still suffer and we need many more jobs, to ignore the good and only focus on the bad is an ideological choice.  In any event, my point was that even if we have "fuill employment," it will be in a very unequal society.

    You seemed to have just given me a rote response for why things suck.  

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    by TomP on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 06:56:04 AM PDT

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    •  Sorry to be negative (2+ / 0-)
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      But things do suck. I think the most valid indicator is the labor participation number.

      July Jobs Report Masks Real Problems In US Labor Markets

      The unemployment rate, meanwhile, fell in part because 37,000 workers dropped out of the labor force, meaning they gave up looking for work. The labor-force participation rate, which measures the percentage of working-age Americans who are working or looking for work, fell to 63.4 percent in July, near a 35-year low.

      The civilian employment-population ratio, which measures how many working-age Americans actually have jobs, was flat at 58.7 percent, near the lowest in 30 years and down from more than 63 percent before the recession.

      “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

      by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:12:24 AM PDT

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      •  It's cool. (3+ / 0-)

        I suppose it is perspective.  I think things are slowly improving for some people but they still suck for many people.  

        Millions of jobs matter.  It's better now than in 2009 for many people.  It does not mean it is good.  

        This is good news, but it does not mean a whole lot.  It does not mean that "good times" are here.  It's far better to have only 330,000 new unemployed than 400,000.  

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        by TomP on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:19:19 AM PDT

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        •  I do apologize for my response being (1+ / 0-)
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          the first in your diary. I can be knee-jerky sometimes and I had already read some stuff about the unemployment rate not necessarily being the good harbinger one would assume.

          I appreciate your diary and your perspective.

          “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

          by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:23:34 AM PDT

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          •  Thanks. No problem (0+ / 0-)

            about being first.  That is prefectly fine.  I do not protect theads in my diaries.  You are always welcome to post the first comment if that is when you post it.  

            I'm glad you commented.  I over reacted a bit anyway.

            It's all cool.    

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            by TomP on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:26:32 AM PDT

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      •  ^ Ignoring this is an ideological choice as well. (1+ / 0-)
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        by divineorder on Thu Aug 15, 2013 at 07:21:00 AM PDT

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