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  •  thanks MB, these history reviews are important for (7+ / 0-)

    , among other things, reminding and teaching how slimy our MIC can be. often acting independently of elected representatives, including presidents.

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    by certainot on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 03:45:04 PM PDT

    •  Independent of presidents yes, but Ike was all for (8+ / 0-)

      the Iran Coup. He wasn't being led by the nose by anyone.
      (Although the Dulles Brothers  may have been holding a little bit of a leash). The Sainted Ike gets a bit too much credit in my book for being a so-called moderate (and benignly out if touch) when it seems that wasn't quite the case.

      Inside Iran, Mossadegh was under heavy pressure from various political forces and he began to rely more heavily for support upon the Tudeh Party, home to many communists and radicals. In the United States, Eisenhower told the NSC that the United States had to take action in Iran, but he cited the Soviet threat, which was virtually non-existent, as the justification. "" If I had $500,000,000 of money to spend in secret,"" the president observed, ""I would get $100,000,000 of it to Iran right now."" Then, just after Eisenhower was inaugurated the CIA began a destabilization campaign in Iran, paying opposing groups to demonstrate against Mossadegh. By summer 1953, the pressure against the government was mounting, and the CIA, using psychological operations similar to those it would use in Guatemala, successfully isolating Mossadegh.
      History they Didn't Teach You

      Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

      by willyr on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 04:43:30 PM PDT

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      •  "Benignly out of touch"? Eisenhower? (3+ / 0-)
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        Who in the hell thinks that the Supreme Commander of Allied forces, engineer of D-Day, injector of federal force into Little Rock School desegregation and man-behind-the-curtain in the de-pantsing of Joe McCarthy was out-of-touch?

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        by dinotrac on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 06:02:39 PM PDT

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        •  Ike played 1,000 days of golf as president (1+ / 0-)
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          and even though I said I think he gets too much "credit" for being "benignly out of touch" (because I think he wanted people to think he was above the fray...when in fact he was very much involved in decisions like the Iran coup) it sure as hell didn't hurt the out of touch image to know that he played 1,000 rounds of golf while president.

          Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

          by willyr on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 08:05:38 PM PDT

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      •  i wasn't up on ike details, thanks, but was speaki (0+ / 0-)

        ing generally.

        i think they keep a lot from presidents and act independently. probably a lot of that might be stuff a president could get to if he/she wanted to or looked in the right place and asked the right people.

        and with more and more privatized POTUS has even less ability.  and it depends on the presidents politics- if they want to do it, and play little general and kill people, like bush, then the cheneys rumsfelds can play their games and let a guy like that in on a need to know/cover-our-ass need your OK basis.

        a lot of people new to politics and lacking that alternate history, including people here, have some notion that obama can do anything he wants in the white house, with the CIA/NSA/pentagon.

        This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

        by certainot on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 06:08:59 PM PDT

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