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  •  This.. (3+ / 0-)
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    valadon, Egalitare, JesseCW

    'few options decided to give them a chance.' (sounds familiar unfortunately).  It seems to me that having the military as the real power and enforcers behind all political process's or populist change  makes a functioning democracy of any kind impossible. The atrocities that are happening now and the resignation of  El Baradei does not bode well for any form of parliamentary humane governance or even basic reform.

    The Arab spring with it's promise of self determination, and decent governance for the people is not geo-politically in the US's 'interests'.  I am not surprised by the fact that the US is not going to stop giving aid to the Egyptian military. Our ME geopolitical neo-con foreign policy has no interest in stable parliamentary  governance, the common good for the people in this region or their universal human rights  My heart goes out to the people of Egypt.

    Indignez-Vous -'Time for Outrage'  Stephane Hessle 2011  

    “To you who will create the twenty-first century, we say, from the bottom of our hearts, to create is to resist. To resist is to create.”

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      Lawrence, native

      The army cannot keep control...this needs to be resolved by  the civilian population. The MB is not the answer will take a very determined group that is unwilling to accept either of their agendas to move this forward...and it will have to be a group that is inclusive and diverse.

      Anyone still rooting for the MB because of the actions of the state better think about what that would mean...We might as well give our country away to the RW fundamentaists too...we are straddling the same possibilities and if it weren't for our civil government...such as it is, we might be in the same predicament.

      “Fiction is a lie through which we tell the truth.” — Albert Camus

      by valadon on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 12:07:18 PM PDT

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      •  Except, of course, that it isn't up to us (0+ / 0-)

        Egyptians can choose to govern themselves as a fundamentalist theocracy if a majority of them vote for that..or they ought to be able to.

        •  of course, but that seems to be (1+ / 0-)
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          what a majority of Egyptians want. They want a secular government that protects rights much as our own Constitution. They don't want military rule and they don't want the agenda being pushed by the MB.

          “Fiction is a lie through which we tell the truth.” — Albert Camus

          by valadon on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 12:41:51 PM PDT

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    •  Worse than "does not bode well" (0+ / 0-)

      I'll see "does not bode well" and raise you "sowing dragon's teeth".

      Anyone considering a dog for personal safety should treat that decision as seriously as they would buying a gun.

      by Dogs are fuzzy on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 03:52:32 PM PDT

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