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  •  Herd immunity in *all* populations is needed. (4+ / 0-)
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    A child from a low density population would most likely travel to a large density area for medical treatment thus spreading the disease.

    I would like to see each state remove both religious and philosophical exemptions to vaccinations for children entering schools.  

    All fifty states have legislation requiring specified vaccines for students.  Although exemptions vary from state to state, all school immunization laws grant exemptions to children for medical reasons.  Almost all states, except Mississippi and West Virginia, grant religious exemptions for people who have religious beliefs against immunizations.  Nineteen states allow philosophical exemptions for those who object to immunizations because of a personal, moral or other beliefs.
    Chart w/state by state breakdown

    As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

    by JaxDem on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 05:01:45 AM PDT

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    •  question: do those exemption laws exempt the (2+ / 0-)
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      parents from liability should another child fall ill from the illness?  (I am thinking of parents who have reinstituted chicken pox and measles "parties" to infect their kids).  I realize the parents are exempt from charges if their own kid becomes ill but what about other people's kids?  Are the original parents exempt from all criminal and civil penalties?  

      •  Well... (2+ / 0-)
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        According to this Pro/Con piece

        Over 5,500 cases alleging a causal relationship between vaccinations and autism have been filed under the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program in the US Court of Federal Claims between 2001 and 2009. [21]

        The US Court of Federal Claims Office of Special Masters, between 1988 and 2009, has awarded compensation to 1,322 families whose children suffered brain damage from vaccines. [22]

        About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. [23]

        So, it seems to be well documented that compensation has been made in some cases of adverse reactions.  

        This data from the same source:

        According to a 2003 report by researchers at the Pediatric Academic Society, childhood vaccinations in the US prevent about 10.5 million cases of infectious illness and 33,000 deaths per year. [2]
        lends an excellent argument to the suggestion that parents exercising an exemption should be held financially responsible for their child/children infect.  

        Tit for tat as far as I'm concerned.  

        As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

        by JaxDem on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 05:36:58 AM PDT

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      •  How are you doing these days? (1+ / 0-)
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        Slogging through all the details and red tape in settling an estate is both disheartening and depressing.  Hope you're holding up.

        As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

        by JaxDem on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 05:38:54 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, virtually nobody is isolated enough to not (0+ / 0-)

      receive and pass on contagious diseases.

    •  Amazing to me how people who (5+ / 0-)
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      have religious beliefs based on knowledge and custom developed over 2000 years ago can have  such strong opinions on vaccinations (and other modern inventions), when the founders of the religion could never have imagined such things.

      In any case, I don't think you have a right to exercise a religious belief in a way that endangers the health of others.

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