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  •  One of my nut-job, right-wing, (2+ / 0-)
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    gun-fetishist neighbors insisted to me a few days ago that Obama's deficits were bankrupting the country (he was actually complaining about the federal debt).  But when I assured him that the deficit had been falling for the last few years, he smiled and remarked, "That's great.  The Republicans are keeping Democrats from spending all the money he wants to."

    Instead of getting into a discussion of macroeconomics and how the government needed to spend more money to facilitate more robust economic growth, I gave up.  But I could see the Republican message coming, about how the deficit wouldn't have been falling if the Democrats had had their way, and that the sequester was keeping the president from wild spending

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 09:36:31 AM PDT

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    •  that's a perfect example (1+ / 0-)
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      "That's great.  The Republicans are keeping Democrats from spending all the money he wants to."
      I thought of some other reasons why ramming this particular fact through people's heads might not do much good, but I missed that one. Sorry I didn't see your reply earlier.

      Of course the standard of effective communication shouldn't be winning over the hard-core right-wingers. But your example dramatizes how hard it can be to win arguments by appealing to facts.

      "I am not sure how we got here, but then, I am not really sure where we are." -Susan from 29

      by HudsonValleyMark on Fri Aug 16, 2013 at 04:36:18 PM PDT

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