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  •  Thank you :) (4+ / 0-)

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    Who is twigg?

    by twigg on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 10:07:44 AM PDT

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    •  Unfortunately, (0+ / 0-)

      the quality of "debate" has not improved, as the "free speech" zealots here, strenuously displaying their Personal Virtue, have demonstrated.

      In the US, the First Amendment has always been a national piety, an altar before which all "good Americans" must genuflect lest they be labeled "enemies of freedom" or (gasp!) "un-American". There is no right to lie. Malicious misinformation cannot legitimately be protected by any legal code. However, pointing out those basic realities is all too likely to arouse the fury of the "free speech" zealots.

      I don't know where you all live, but in areas of America where the hate is palpable, these are real problems, for real people. The hate and bullying are real, they affect real lives.

      Not outlawing any speech might satisfy your inner liberal, but it does not help when we signally fail to send a powerful message to those who use their "rights" to bully, harass and subjugate.

      All too true. But I concluded years ago that the "free speech" zealots are far more interested in their pretty abstractions than they are in the lives of those who suffer real harm from the perpetuation of those pretty abstractions.

      The more people I encounter, the more I appreciate our cats.

      by Old Sailor on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 01:08:45 PM PDT

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