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    by the establishment in 2004--John Kerry--made plenty of mistakes, and we lost an election we should have won.  The ad with the wind surfing characterized him and his campaign perfectly.  Blowing in the wind.

    Would Dean have bested Bush?  Who knows, but probably not.  The fact that Dean was savaged by the press, with a clearly coordinated set of attacks and demeaning columns, articles and op ed pieces in the NYT, didn't help.  He could claim inexperience.  What was Kerry's excuse?

    Only slightly off topic, but I doubt Obama would have won in 2008 if it hadn't been for Dean's 50 state strategy, which Carville and others ridiculed then used.

    •  completely agree about the last para (0+ / 0-)

      running DNC was dean's calling. But to blame the "establishment" for Dean's own inability to run a winning campaign rewrites history. One can come to that realization while ignoring Kerry entirely. Dean's flaws had nothing to do with Kerry and who supported Kerry. They were his own problem, his own making.

      Put differently, platforms don't win elections, candidates do. Or don't. Suggesting that somehow TPTB won't allow Dean ignores Dean's inability to win key primaries.

      "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" — Upton Sinclair

      by Greg Dworkin on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 04:37:03 AM PDT

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