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  •  Really? (9+ / 0-)

    So no one on the sux side actually really thinks he sucks because all of you base your dislike on Policy, Governance and Ideology, but everyone on the rox side are, what did they used to call it- a "personality cult"?
    I beg to differ. I would say that those on the rox side base their opinion on the same things.
    Did that never occur to you?

    Your beliefs don't make you a better person. Your behavior does.

    by skohayes on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 06:16:58 PM PDT

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    •  I'm saying many DO think he sucks, but it's not (4+ / 0-)
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      as much because they think he's an evil person, but because his policies and ideology an an elected leader sucks. Yes there are some similarities, and it's not just some dichotomous rox-sux division: Lots of people on the fence and conflicted for various reasons.

      But in the DEBATE here on DKos, the Rox people constantly make it all about the HATE, or various personalized reasons critics may not like him (including many bogus racism claims), and then often proceed to smear the critics personally by comparing them unfairly with Rand Paul or Teabaggers. Most of the Obama critics don't do this, except when a policy or motive from the Rox side is indistinguishable from Republicans'. But the ad hom guilt-by-association smears of DKos members are far more common among the Obama Rox side, IMO.

      "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

      by Kombema on Sat Aug 17, 2013 at 07:42:28 PM PDT

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      •  There's NO debate on it (3+ / 0-)
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        There's people who like to participate in flame wars (on both sides). Then there's the people who like to start the fights (both sides), and people who egg it on.
        Please don't insult what real debate is by comparing it to what goes on here.

        Most of the Obama critics don't do this, except when a policy or motive from the Rox side is indistinguishable from Republicans'.
        L.O.L.

        Your beliefs don't make you a better person. Your behavior does.

        by skohayes on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 03:35:37 AM PDT

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        •  Social Security cuts under the guise of deficit (1+ / 0-)
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          reduction is both vintage conservative Republican and a lie. Just one example.

          "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

          by Kombema on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 12:38:39 PM PDT

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