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  •  Others say WikiLeak's error claim is a lie. (3+ / 0-)
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    Bonsai66, rssrai, stevenaxelrod

    http://ausvotes2013.com/...

    It turns out rumours of this deal were spreading a week ago. NSW Greens Councillor Max Phillips tweeted last weekend that he was told by Wikileaks Party members that preferences in NSW were going to go to right-wing parties above the Greens. Thanks @prestontowers for collating those tweets. The rumours were dismissed as unfounded by Wikileaks Senate candidate in Victoria, Leslie Cannold.

    ADDITIONAL: @AsherWolf confirms that the person in this photo (tweeted by Max Phillips from his conversation with Wikileaks Party members last weekend) who “understood preferences” and told Phillips about Wikileaks Party plans to preference the Right above the Greens, is the same Cassandra Findlay who lodged the Group Voting Ticket with the AEC.

    •  "Others say" (3+ / 0-)
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      Chi, Johnny Q, shaharazade

      Isn't evidence. Others say all sorts of things. This is an election and thus the game is on, and it may just be a smear.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 01:03:51 PM PDT

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      •  Well, how do you know these people are lying? (1+ / 0-)
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        stevenaxelrod

        It's kind of fucked up to accuse people of smearing without any evidence.

        They could be smearing. They could be telling the truth. They could be telling the truth as they understand it.

        Any one of those things could be true.

        You can't flatly claim that people are lying without proof.

        I withdrew my recommendation from this post because I learned other information that cast that presented by the diarist in doubt. You should likewise retract your claim until you have proof that it's true.

        •  Basic principle of journalism (3+ / 0-)
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          Chi, Johnny Q, bronte17
          News broadcasting should be based on truthfulness, ensured by the appropriate means of verification and proof, and impartiality in presentation, description and narration. Rumour must not be confused with news. News headlines and summaries must reflect as closely as possible the substance of the facts and data presented.
          http://assembly.coe.int/...

          Since Wikileaks is the original source of the information, as the source they have a right to correct errors.

          Rumors do not constitute fact. All we know is the source issued a correction. Unless you can prove the source is wrong about its own issued statements about its own policies, and have something credible other than rumors, then you can't report unsubstantiated smears unless you label them as such.

          No doubt such ethical concerns won't stop you.

          "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

          by ZhenRen on Sun Aug 18, 2013 at 01:32:37 PM PDT

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    •  Others say supporters (0+ / 0-)

      of the 4th amendment and  civil liberty are consistent with  'libertarian sentiment'. Those who reveal what is happening behind the secret state are traitorous enemies of the state, some say. They paint any entity or person who shares the sentiment that the NSA's illegal,  unconstitutional massive spying and tracking is wrong   with the brush of nonsensical political smears. Even these so called smears on political beliefs and personal lives are illogical, untrue and besides the point.  The point being what is being implemented by this Democratic administration whose sentiments are certainly not democratic or lawful.        

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