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  •  Why is it BS? (2+ / 0-)
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    ScienceMom, PhilJD

    Whether he was minister or not, it is Parliament that passes legislation (he was an MP at the time). But even that is immaterial - his question is about the application of the law.

    They indeed have said they are concerned at the use of terrorism legislation for something that does not appear to relate to terrorism, so it needs to be clarified, and clarified quickly."
    (from the quote in the diary)

    Paranoia strikes deep. Into your life it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. You step out of line, the man come and take you away. - S. Stills

    by ask on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 07:25:12 AM PDT

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      Vaz shot his mouth off before some pertinent factors became apparent - notably that Miranda was sent to Berlin to get data.  He was acting as Greenwald's agent/courier rather than simply being his emotional partner which is the spin being put on it.

      Vaz is not adverse to lying to Parliament - he was suspended for a week for doing so and making false statements about a policewoman.

      At the time of the passage of the 2000 Act, Vaz was Minister for Europe at the Foreign Office (which controls the Secret Intelligence Services). After his "resignation for health reasons" in 2001 he had to work hard to get back into Blair's good books hence the slavish support of repressive measures (worse than the 2000 Act) that were pushed through.

      We will work, we will play, we will laugh, we will live. We will not waste one moment, nor sacrifice one bit of our freedom, because of fear.

      by Lib Dem FoP on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 08:34:40 AM PDT

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      •  Oh in case you had not noticed (1+ / 0-)
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        Vaz has called for a review of the 2000 Act which is a bit strange considering he is the Chair of the Home Affairs Select Committee which is about to do just that. Perhaps he "forgot", like he seems to have forgotten contraversial sections of the Act which permits these searches, again despite his committee being about to examine the Act.  

        I am afraid I credit Vaz with more memory ability than he appears to display.

        The reality is that Labour has had a dreadful summer recess with its leader under the pressure of a semi-revolt and a total failure to lead the political agenda in the UK. Picking up the fuss is a boon, it's just the actual statements Vaz has made on this smack of hasty preparation, talking points prepared by PR people and a desperate opportunism.

        We will work, we will play, we will laugh, we will live. We will not waste one moment, nor sacrifice one bit of our freedom, because of fear.

        by Lib Dem FoP on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 08:45:43 AM PDT

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        •  Thanks for the response (1+ / 0-)
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          Lots of detail on UK politics that I am unaware of and wrt individual MPs, very little. Even if his query to some extent may be opportunistic, I think the main thrust of it is whether the law has been properly applied.

          Paranoia strikes deep. Into your life it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. You step out of line, the man come and take you away. - S. Stills

          by ask on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 09:06:17 AM PDT

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