Skip to main content

View Diary: Canadian Ted Cruz releases his "birth certificate" (44 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  um, no, that doesn't settle it at all. (0+ / 0-)

    US citizenship is conferred when a parent is a US citizen and the child is registered properly at a US consulate. Period.  Being on a military base has nothing to do with it.

    McCain wasn't born on a base in Panama - there wasn't one at the time.  He's covered under another law actually passed specifically for the Canal region - but that may not have even been necessary.

    And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

    by Mortifyd on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 01:18:36 PM PDT

    [ Parent ]

    •  I don't care what the new laws of the US say, (0+ / 0-)

      you cannot, according to his statement or any recent made up law, be born american outside the USA just because your mother was born in that country. The forefathers specifically said NATURAL BORN which is born inside the united states. Naturalized is becoming a citizen after birth in another country. The constitution even protected those naturalized at the time of writing to be eligible for presidency but none after that day of signing. Only a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, from that day on, be president. It's written in the constitution in plain English.

      McCain was born in Panama City Hospital, it is why Obama and Clinton supported an Act to rename McCain natural born.

      •  WTF. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:

        People are born outside the US every day as born natural US citizens.  Registering a birth at a consulate is NOT naturalization, is it registering a legal American birth on foreign soil.

        The Naturalization Act of 1790 stated that "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens". (Act to establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, 1st Congress, 2nd session, March 26, 1790, 1 Stat.L. 103 at 104, 2 Laws of the U.S., ed. Bioren & Duane (1815) 82 at 83.) This act was superseded by the Naturalization Act of 1795, which did not mention the phrase natural born citizen.
        There WAS no base or American hospital when McCain was born, he was born in a Panamanian hospital.  There was a specific law made after McCain was born that declared all US parented babies born in the Canal Zone prior to any bases to be natural born US citizens.
        The former unincorporated territory of the Panama Canal Zone and its related military facilities were not regarded as United States territory at the time,[92] but 8 U.S.C. § 1403, which became law in 1937, retroactively conferred citizenship on individuals born within the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and on individuals born in the Republic of Panama on or after that date who had at least one U.S. citizen parent employed by the U.S. government or the Panama Railway Company
        The  issue with Cruz is that he has dual citizenship with a foreign nation - not that he was born in Canada - but that Canada like the US extends citizenship to children born on Canadian soil.  So until he formally renounces his Canadian citizenship he is free to vote and reside in Canada at any time - and thus is subject to the issue of dual loyalties.

        Try again.

        And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

        by Mortifyd on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 08:04:57 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site