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  •  As a non-believer (4+ / 0-)

    I can't really go along on the basic question with either liberal or conservative Christians. But on political questions, I am much closer to the liberal denominations, and realize they have contributed to the progressive cause, though I still can't agree with their theology. I have been quite amused over the last few years to watch the liberal denominations try to catch up with others on such matters as gay rights. It took a while to get there. To the question of whether they are winning or not: yes, in the sense that the general public is heading in a more liberal degree on many social issues and undecided as to whether they will keep on losing members. I suppose time will tell on the second part.

    •  The full inclusion of gay people in our fellowship (5+ / 0-)

      is a matter of discussion right now.  Specifically, whether we will perform same sex marriages in our church now that it is legal in our state.  During a discussion with a person who has quit our congregation over this issue she accused our denomination of embrace a "worldly ethic" rather than a scriptural and faith based ethic.  I countered that a worldly ethic is one of right equals might, of the first will be first and the last will be last, of cycles of violence and exclusion, of cut throat individualism.  Whereas a Gospel ethic is one of peace and hospitality and a breaking down of barriers that separate people and an ethic of first will be last and last will be first and an ethic of turn the other cheek graciousness.  The fact is, gay rights have come to the fore as the latest manifestation of the inexorable progress of the liberal Protestant vision for a world of doing justice, loving kindness and walking humbly before the Lord.  Her exclusion of gays is the worldly ethic.  The inclusion of gays is the Gospel ethic.

      Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. As good as I am, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway. –jbou (2013)

      by Simul Iustus et Peccator on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 08:26:35 PM PDT

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