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    There are lots of people, especially in the US, who are unaffiliated but still consider themselves ”believers", or ”spiritual". Speaking as an atheist, I'd say that my world view has less in common with theirs than with members of liberal Protestant denominations, and I'd prefer not to be lumped together with them. Personally, I'm OK with "unbeliever".

    I'm old enough to have been involved in the civil rights and anti war struggles of the 60s and 70s, and I deeply appreciate the contributions of clergy to those movements. Just as an aside, liberal Jewish and RC clergy were often on the front lines, too. What has become of the RC social-justice movement over the past half-century is truly dismaying, but perhaps Pope Francis will encourage it once again. We need all the allies we can get.

    My only quibble with what is otherwise a really fine piece this that rather that suggest that the liberal churches have won the social-justice war, or the science war, or any of the other struggles you mention, you should remind yourself that what they/we won was only a battle, and it was "won" over 40 years ago.

    Since then, ground has been lost steadily on most of the fronts you detail. I don't blame you individually, or the mainline denominations, certainly not more than I blame myself. But I've come to believe that this war is endless, that we make our progress in fits and starts, and that there are always people whose narrow interests are opposed to our broad ones. And they have fabulous amounts of wealth and will fight to the death to preserve what they have.

    "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

    by sidnora on Wed Aug 21, 2013 at 07:34:54 AM PDT

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