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  •  What was their alternative? (0+ / 0-)

    Elections are blunt instruments. You're more or less stuck with the people who run.

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    by dinotrac on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 03:00:53 PM PDT

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    •  No they hand-picked their candidates (2+ / 0-)
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      to mirror their ideology.

      I find it really remarkable that people think that the Chamber of Commerce was duped or some such nonsense.

      These people have an ideological perspective that is unworkable in real life.  

      If you want to defund government, you won't have big bridge building contracts unless you're lucky enough to find several multi-billionaires interested in building that bridge.

      Did you read the article?

      The Chamber of Commerce is upset because the Transportation and Housing Bill is dead in the water which has stopped funds being release that their insiders would be paid to execute government contracts. lol  They want no government spending, but they want to win paying government contracts.  They can't have it both ways.  This is where reality of their ideology comes home to roost and that's due to the fact that they picked politicians who wanted to cut government spending.  They are idiots and they've engineered their own problems.

      •  You make that sound so easy, but... (0+ / 0-)

        you can't arm-wrestle somebody into an election and you still have to get votes.

        And yes, I read the article.
        Have you ever participated in an election?

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        by dinotrac on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 04:27:40 PM PDT

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        •  LOL - yes I have participated in elections. (1+ / 0-)
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          I guess you think that the Chamber is full of a bunch of political wizards, but it is not.

          Someone says, "Hey let's gerrymander as many districts as we possibly can to give dominance to the most extreme views we have!"

          They say, "Awesome, great idea!  Here's a bunch of cash to help you do that!"

          Then someone says, "We've got all of the districts appropriately rigged now let's get the candidates lined up to run.  Here's our list of people who are extreme enough and look good on camera."

          The Chamber says, "Super great!  Here's some more money."

          Independently, the Chamber then goes on to create advertising of their political ideological hogwash and saturates the markets where they have a horse in the race.

          Everybody in the most well gerrymandered districts are convinced that austerity is the only answer; that the deficit must be fought to the death; and that government is BAD.

          Cool so all that is in place and they do fairly well aside from a few people who were dumb enough to talk about forced pregnancy after rape - but hey - you win some and you lose some.

          Then their peeps are sworn in and ready to go!  

          Austerity; deficit death matches; NO government spending - that's the result!

          "Yay!  We are winning," says the Chamber.

          Months pass - and really not that many - just over seven months - and they realize at the Chamber of Commerce that maybe the Deficit Death Match isn't so super great after all.  Maybe Austerity is kinda reducing traffic in their members' retail outlets.  Maybe Government BAD is kinda impeding the flow of what was once really reliable BIG money for the members.

          Could it be?  Naw.  It must be Obama's fault.  LOL - Shaking Head.  They are a bunch of foolish idiots engaging in political and ideological games that as it turns out amount to shooting themselves in the foot.

          •  Heh -- That's interesting. (0+ / 0-)

            Between the two of us, I'd say you were the one making the Chamber sound like a bunch of political wizards orchestrating elections.

            I don't think they're that powerful or that smart.

            They can influence elections. They can encourage people to run, but, more or less, they have the same problem we all do come election day:

            Two and exactly two political parties with a credible chance to win any seat.

            If one of them is hostile to you, you're more or less stuck with the other one.  Republican leaders have been stuck with Children of the Tea Party since 2010.  They thought they could ride the Tea Party wave and simply put the newcomers in their place.

            Hasn't worked out that way.
            Bummer for everyone.

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            by dinotrac on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 05:49:13 PM PDT

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      •  They don't want "no government spending." (1+ / 0-)
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        They want no government spending on people - or anything else for which they can't collect a government paycheck.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 04:27:59 PM PDT

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        •  Right, but they've gone with evermore extreme (2+ / 0-)
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          characters in their quest to cordon off the funds for themselves and now they've basically jumped the shark.  Their peeps are so extreme and inflexible - and largely diversely insane - that no funding is the result of their efforts.

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