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  •  Because I've known her for the better part of a (2+ / 0-)
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    happy camper, HeyMikey

    decade, I disagree.

    Information is abundant, wisdom is scarce. ~The Druid.
    ~Ideals aren't goals, they're navigation aids.~

    by FarWestGirl on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 08:44:50 AM PDT

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    •  That's why I said (1+ / 0-)
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      "if typical". My point is not to insult youer friend, but that brevity is critical when debunking these sort of things. Your friend may be thoughtful enough to digest all that, but the mouth breathers who sent it to her were most likely short attention span wingnuts. Too much detail bogs them down, which is why they're such easy marks in the first place.

      A brief reply, but still to the point, is good if she might send it along to others, or you can hit "reply to all" and let them all know.

      "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

      by happy camper on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 09:04:11 AM PDT

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    •  Suggestion: send your friend a link. Or several. (1+ / 0-)
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      From this June:

      Unemployed Workers Still Far Outnumber Job Openings in Every Major Sector

      The Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey (JOLTS) released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed job openings falling by 118,000 in April to 3.8 million. Job openings have improved very little over the last year and remain very depressed. In 2007, there were 4.5 million job openings each month, so April’s level of 3.8 million is more than 16 percent below its prerecession level.

      The job openings data are extremely useful for diagnosing what’s behind our sustained high unemployment. In today’s economy, unemployed workers far outnumber job openings in every sector, as shown in Figure A. This demonstrates that the main problem in the labor market is a broad-based lack of demand for workers—and not, as is often claimed, available workers lacking the skills needed for the sectors with job openings...

      ...the job-seekers ratio has improved fairly steadily since reaching its peak of 6.7-to-1 in July 2009. Despite this improvement, odds remain stacked against job seekers; the ratio has been 3.0 -to-1 or greater since October 2008, four-and-a-half years ago. A job-seekers ratio above 3-to-1 means there are no jobs for more than two out of three unemployed workers. To put today’s ratio of 3.1-to-1 in perspective, it is useful to note that the highest the ratio ever got in the early 2000s downturn was 2.9-to-1 in September 2003. In a labor market with strong job opportunities, the ratio would be close to 1-to-1, as it was in December 2000 (when it was 1.1-to-1).

      Job creation for the last 12 months has averaged around 190,000 a month. How about sending your friend this link, at which she can see that rate of job creation will get us back to 2007 levels of unemployment by 2021. (Not a typo; 2021.) Only of course, by then more of those jobs will be part-time or lower-paying than in 2007.

      Send your friend this graph, showing corporate profits are skyrocketing--disproving the notion that to create jobs, we need to direct more money to "job creators":

      Send your friend the link to this particularly scary graph, comparing our current jobs recession to every other one since WWII. Point out that for the last several recessions, job recovery for each takes longer than the last:

      Why do they keep getting longer? What the hell is going on? This is the best explanation I've seen, by Nobel economics winner Joseph Stiglitz (spoiler alert--it's offshoring and automation):

      "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

      by HeyMikey on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 10:09:49 AM PDT

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