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  •  It's pretty common for officers to ask for consent (4+ / 0-)

    to search a person's vehicle. Does that consent allow a search of any and/or all electronic devices? Or would they need a warrant for anything other than the vehicle?

    I'm with leu2500 upthread. Password protect your devices.

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 07:39:19 AM PDT

    •  The answer is always "no" (5+ / 0-)

      "Can I search your vehicle?" "No."
      "Can I have a moment of your time?" "No."
      "Can I step into your house?" "No."

      Any voluntary interaction with cops can only hurt you or at best be neutral. Don't do it.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 09:22:03 AM PDT

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      •  Been there done that and they searched anyway. (2+ / 0-)
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        I've had vehicles searched eight times and have never given my consent.

        Thankfully I'm old now, have a handicapped tag (I call it my stealth tag) and never get stopped.

        "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

        by sceptical observer on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 09:54:46 AM PDT

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      •  Not for blacks. Black parents instruct their (1+ / 0-)
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        daughters and sons (particularly their sons) to their hands visible at all times and answer YES to all requests, and otherwise keep their mouths shut.  Total and complete cooperation.

        •  I cannot fully appreciate the black... (0+ / 0-)

          ...experience, however, spending time with cops who might plant drugs on you or otherwise attempt to arrest you does not seem like a good idea.

          You have rights, use 'em or lose 'em. The more you comply with police, the more they will expect compliance.

          (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
          Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

          by Sparhawk on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 01:53:41 PM PDT

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      •  And I have to disagree with you (1+ / 0-)
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        that voluntary interaction can only hurt you, sometimes it helps you.  I recall when I was in college, and cops were looking for a criminal (I think a thief of some sort, but I was never really told), whose description I supposedly matched, and allowing a cop to search my backpack cleared me from the suspect list.

        Had I refused and demanded he get a warrant, then it would have increased their suspicions, I would've have been followed around campus the rest of the day/night (tailed, in other words), and would have had to deal with the cops later when they did get a warrant, or I at least would have spent the rest of the day/night thinking about it.  Much better to get it over with and be cleared.  But maybe I was too naïve and trusting back then.  You think it would have been better to demand a warrant?  Was I too naïve?  It's possible.   :)

        I got stopped twice by campus police while I was in college.  :)

    •  Pretty common for officers to treat an answer (0+ / 0-)

      of "no" as reasonable suspicious, or come up with some other excuse to search anyways (He was"nervous").

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