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  •  I'm looking for the context on how (14+ / 0-)

    ...the Australian election system works, who the Wikileaks party candidates are besides Assange, what their positions are, and what the Wikileaks Party platform says.

    This seems long on smearing the arrogant bastard who runs Wikileaks and short on covering the Australian election and the Wikileaks Party's role in it.

    But you see, politics attracts arrogant bastards like honey attracts flies.

    Wikileaks, the news organization, stands or falls on its record of journalism and reporting.   I would imagine there are a whole bunch of Stratfor fans angry about that.

    50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

    by TarheelDem on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 03:06:11 PM PDT

    •  Australian Senate electoral system (13+ / 0-)

      Each state has an equal number of seats (currently 12). Senators normally serve a six year term, with half the Senate being elected every three years. There can also be something called a double dissolution election, if the Senate and House of Representatives have failed to agree on major legislation. After a double dissolution all the Senate seats are contested in one election (with terms being adjusted to get back to the normal rotation of half Senate elections).

      Just for completeness, the two Territories have two Senators each. They are elected for three year terms.

      The current electoral system involves what I (in the UK) would call the Single Transferable Vote although other terms are used. Simply, to be elected a candidates needs a quota of votes at some stage of the count. In a six member election, the quota is one seventh plus one of the valid votes.

      When a candidate obtains a quota of votes, they retain the quota and any surplus votes above the quota are transferred to the continuing candidate next on the preference list. If no surplus exists to be transferred, the last placed candidate is eliminated and their votes are redistributed. This process continues until the required number of Senators have been elected.

      The Australians insist that the Senate voter rank order all the candidates in the State, for a vote to be valid. In the more populous states, where there can be more than a hundred candidates, this is difficult. The system was modified to give the voter the option of voting once for a list of preferences compiled by the party of the elector's choice. Most Australians choose to vote by the simpler method.

      In most elections Labor and the two Coalition parties win five or six seats. In some states the National party has negligible strength and in other areas the two Coalition parties have merged. They do not always present a combined Senate list. In New South Wales they do have a joint Coalition ticket, whereas in Western Australia (where the WA National Party is not technically part of the federal Coalition) there are separate Liberal and National lists.

      When a small party draws up a preference list, it is hoping to do something called preference harvesting. This means that it hopes to keep slightly ahead of rivals, so that it survives successive eliminations of other small parties candidates and inherits the votes (as valid votes list all candidates there are the same number of votes at each stage of the count). In the last stage of the count, the small party hopes to have achieved a quota to elect a Senator. This needs a lot of luck, but small parties have won seats by this process.

      The most likely party to pick up the last seat in a State is the Australian Greens. Small parties have a tactical incentive to rank the Greens low in the preferences, to try to overtake them in the race for the last seat.

      As a result of preference harvesting and avoiding the Greens accumulating all the non major party votes in the last count, small parties do not necessarily follow their own ideology in allocating preferences.

      There is no man alive who is sufficiently good to rule the life of the man next door to him. Sir Rhys Hopkin Morris, M.P.

      by Gary J on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 04:03:07 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks for this explanation (2+ / 0-)
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        of the voting preferences, which isn't well understood. So, there are odd strategies that can explain the choices in the preference lists.

        "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

        by ZhenRen on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 04:19:28 PM PDT

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        •  New South Wales Wikileaks Preferences (6+ / 0-)

          I have copied this list from the Australian Broadcasting Commission elections website.

          Group I: The Wikileaks Party

          Preferences
          Candidate    Party
          1    Kellie TRANTER    The Wikileaks Party
          2    Alison BROINOWSKI    The Wikileaks Party
          3    James JANSSON    Future Party
          4    James HAGGERTY    Future Party
          5    Brendan MOLLOY    Pirate Party Australia
          6    David CAMPBELL    Pirate Party Australia
          7    Graeme DUNNE    Australian Sex Party
          8    Sue RAYE    Australian Sex Party
          9    Gordon Graham FRASER    Stop CSG Party
          10    Lynda Susan DEAN    Stop CSG Party
          11    Ronaldo VILLAVER    Australian Democrats
          12    Andrew WALLACE    Australian Democrats
          13    BJ FUTTER    Help End Marijuana Prohibition
          14    Jason OLBOURNE    Help End Marijuana Prohibition
          15    David LEYONHJELM    Liberal Democratic Party
          16    Jeffrey Marc PETTETT    Liberal Democratic Party
          17    Mark PEARSON    Animal Justice Party
          18    Kate VICKERS    Animal Justice Party
          19    Peter SIMONDS    Uniting Australia Party
          20    Tanya WATT    Uniting Australia Party
          21    Shayne HIGSON    Voluntary Euthanasia Party
          22    Loredana MULHALL    Voluntary Euthanasia Party
          23    Miles HUNT    Drug Law Reform Australia
          24    Tony TRIMINGHAM    Drug Law Reform Australia
          25    Bradley TANKS    Australian Independents
          26    Stephen HIRST    Australian Independents
          27    Tim BOHM    Bullet Train for Australia
          28    Charlotte Rebecca GLICK    Bullet Train for Australia
          29    Criselee STEVENS    Australian Voice Party
          30    Keith FRANCIS    Australian Voice Party
          31    Richard BLACK    Australian Voice Party
          32    Ray BROWN    Building Australia
          33    Melanie SYMINGTON    Building Australia
          34    Tom WANG    -
          35    Daniel O'TOOLE    -
          36    Darrell WALLBRIDGE    Australia First Party
          37    Garth FRASER    Australia First Party
          38    Nick BEAMS    Socialist Equality Party
          39    Zac HAMBIDES    Socialist Equality Party
          40    Andrew WHALAN    -
          41    Peter Grant COOPER    -
          42    Kerry McNALLY    Republican Party Australia
          43    Jason BLAKE    Republican Party Australia
          44    Tim FERGUSON    Senator OnLine
          45    Tony BARRY    Senator OnLine
          46    Don McKINNON    Senator OnLine
          47    MaryLou CARTER    Carers Alliance
          48    Maree BUCKWALTER    Carers Alliance
          49    Karl Alexander HOUSEMAN    Shooters and Fishers Party
          50    Jim MUIRHEAD    Shooters and Fishers Party
          51    Bob LOWE    Australian Fishing and Lifestyle Party
          52    Tim DEAN    Australian Fishing and Lifestyle Party
          53    Andy THOMPSON    Non-Custodial Parents Party (Equal Parenting)
          54    Josh THOMPSON    Non-Custodial Parents Party (Equal Parenting)
          55    Gary MYERS    Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party
          56    Daniel KIRKNESS    Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party
          57    Cate FAEHRMANN    Greens
          58    James RYAN    Greens
          59    Penny BLATCHFORD    Greens
          60    Christina HO    Greens
          61    Amanda FINDLEY    Greens
          62    Ben SPIES-BUTCHER    Greens
          63    Bob CARR    Australian Labor Party
          64    Doug CAMERON    Australian Labor Party
          65    Ursula STEPHENS    Australian Labor Party
          66    Glenn KOLOMEITZ    Australian Labor Party
          67    Nuatali NELMES    Australian Labor Party
          68    Bhupinder Kumar CHHIBBER    Australian Labor Party
          69    Fiona ROSSITER    Family First Party
          70    Stan HURLEY    Family First Party
          71    Simon McCAFFREY    Democratic Labour Party
          72    Daniel John HANNA    Democratic Labour Party
          73    Marise PAYNE    Liberal Party
          74    John WILLIAMS    The Nationals
          75    Arthur SINODINOS    Liberal Party
          76    Alan HAY    The Nationals
          77    Carolyn CAMERON    Liberal Party
          78    Angus CAMERON    Liberal Party
          79    Mark GRECH    Australian Protectionist Party
          80    Christian JOHNS    Australian Protectionist Party
          81    Jim McILROY    Socialist Alliance
          82    Reg DARE    Socialist Alliance
          83    Matthew ADAMSON    Palmer United Party
          84    Suellen Marree WRIGHTSON    Palmer United Party
          85    Rick OBRIEN    Outdoor Recreation Party (Stop the Greens)
          86    Joaquim Eduardo DE LIMA    Outdoor Recreation Party (Stop the Greens)
          87    Nicole BEIGER    Smokers Rights Party
          88    James Peter WHELAN    Smokers Rights Party
          89    William BOURKE    Stable Population Party
          90    Kris SPIKE    Stable Population Party
          91    Ian BRYCE    Secular Party of Australia
          92    Christopher OWEN    Secular Party of Australia
          93    Peter James MAILLER    Katter's Australian Party
          94    Tony MAKA    Katter's Australian Party
          95    Bill KOUTALIANOS    No Carbon Tax Climate Sceptics
          96    Mijina McDOWALL    No Carbon Tax Climate Sceptics
          97    Robyn PEEBLES    Christian Democratic Party
          98    Deborah LIONS    Christian Democratic Party
          99    Peter RAHME    Christian Democratic Party
          100    Caroline Margaret FRASER    Christian Democratic Party
          101    Ross CLIFFORD    Christian Democratic Party
          102    Norm BISHOP    Rise Up Australia
          103    Wayne SOMERFIELD    Rise Up Australia
          104    Ron POULSEN    -
          105    David ASH    Independent
          106    Sam NATHAN    Independent
          107    John La MELA    Independent
          108    Pauline HANSON    One Nation
          109    Kate MCCULLOCH    One Nation
          110    Aaron PLUMB    One Nation

          There is no man alive who is sufficiently good to rule the life of the man next door to him. Sir Rhys Hopkin Morris, M.P.

          by Gary J on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 04:49:08 PM PDT

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          •  My last comment on NSW preferences (6+ / 0-)
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            Almost certainly the only entries on the above list which will really matter are those for the Greens and Labor. Unless all the Green candidates are eliminated by the last count, the Wikileaks above the line votes will be likely to end up with the lead Green candidate. If that person is eliminated then the votes will go to the third placed Labor candidate (as the first two will have been elected by the last stage of the count).

            Other preferences would only matter if one minor party candidate, listed before all the Greens, had overtaken the Greens before the final stage of the count. This is not totally impossible, but is quite unlikely.

            There is no man alive who is sufficiently good to rule the life of the man next door to him. Sir Rhys Hopkin Morris, M.P.

            by Gary J on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 05:10:36 PM PDT

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      •  In other words... (3+ / 0-)
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        This is a fairly common electoral strategy. Thanks for the clarification.

        There's none so blind as those that will not see. --Jonathan Swift

        by chuckvw on Tue Aug 20, 2013 at 04:37:14 PM PDT

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