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  •  New Jersey (8+ / 0-)

    He has a New Jersey personality, that's why. He has a big mouth. I don't think it will translate well nationally, but if 2016 is a bad year for Dems, then he could be bad news.

    You will not be punished for your anger. You will be punished by your anger.

    by mstep on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 06:27:36 AM PDT

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    •  Exactly! (3+ / 0-)
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      I'm originally from New Jersey and even though I would never vote for Christie for anything, I can't help liking him on a personal level. Every time he opens his mouth I get homesick for Jersey.  But that is exactly why he won't play nationally.  If I hadn't learned to tone down my Jersey-ness, I'd be a social pariah where I currently live, and the same would happen to Christie.

      •  2016 (1+ / 0-)
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        If voters nationally are really angry, and Christie gets the nomination, that's what would spell trouble. Being from Jersey, he does anger really well.

        You will not be punished for your anger. You will be punished by your anger.

        by mstep on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 07:20:58 AM PDT

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        •  Angry candidates rarely win (1+ / 0-)
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          For the most part, voters aren't attracted to angry candidates.  Even angry voters are often repelled by angry candidates. The way to appeal to angry voters is to stoke the voters' anger and then offer them catharsis.  I can't see Christie doing catharsis well (except for Jerseyites).

      •  Same here, from a born and raised NJ-ian (3+ / 0-)

        Moved to Brooklyn about 2 1/2 years ago, but I definitely have a NJ attitude. I would never vote for him, but I also find myself liking him personally. I think he did a great job with Sandy relief, especially when he schooled Fox News when they asked him if he thought the hurricane would have an impact on the presidential election.

        Maybe people from the rest of the country don't like an in your face personality, but I sure do.

      •  Originally from NJ too (3+ / 0-)

        Moved to Connecticut years ago and one of the first things I had to learn was to tone down my Jersey attitude.  I was at the mall during the holidays and was waiting in line for what seemed like forever.  The lady at the checkout was holding up the line making ridiculous demands like wanting a certain color gift box with certain color packing paper, then when the poor girls serving her got the paper she got all angry because it was wrinkled and demanded fresh paper which she proceeded to snatch out of their hands and wrinkle anyway.  I made a comment to the guy behind me about how this was ridiculous and that the woman was a fucking bitch.  Turned out he was the woman's husband and when he realized I was talking about his wife asked me to repeat it.  So like any good Jersey boy I did.  Well that didn't go over very well and he wanted to put me through the window.  I think he soon realized though that I wasn't backing down or apologizing and that I was either crazy didn't care.  They walked out and I finally got to pay and get the hell out of there.  Later I heard that the poor girls got in trouble because like any self entitled rich asshole in Connecticut, they decided to call corporate and go all the way to the top.  I realized then that my attitude in Connceticut wouldn't go over well and would only get others in trouble.  So I learned to hide that attitude with sarcasm and smug cynicism mixed in with a touch of fake sincerity to fit in better with the locals.  

        This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

        by DisNoir36 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 07:44:24 AM PDT

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        •  I'm originally from NJ, too (1+ / 0-)
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          I think he's seen as trying to do something to address problems, unlike, I dunno ... most recent governors. I do think the dual-election nonsense will ironically cost him the "blowout" he was hoping for.

          Please don't shoot the messenger as I'm not all that fond of him, but folks who don't know Jersey don't have the backstory of the state's mess.

          •  Dems have a poor record in NJ as Governors (4+ / 0-)

            The back story is quite simple really.  Dems continually shoot themselves in the foot.  

            In the last 30+ years there have been a total of 4 GOP governors: Thomas Keane (1980-1988), Christine Tood Whittman (1994-2001), Donald DiFrancesco (2001-2002) and now Chris Christie (2010-present).

            In that same time there were 4 Democratic governors: Jim Florio (1990-1994), Jim McGreevey (2002-2004), Richard Codey (2004-2006) and John Corzine (2006-2010)

            Complain as we may about the policies of the GOP governors, the reality is the Dems with the exception of Codey were complete and utter fucking disasters.  The Dem party is in shambles in NJ.  The GOP may be in the minority as far as registered voters but if the Dems keep serving up fried shit then what do they expect.  Buono unfortunately registers above some dudette.  She may not be fried shit but nobody knows who the hell she is and EVERYONE knows Christie.  

            NJ isn't above electing a GOP governor if that candidate seems somewhat credible.  They did it 5 times in the last 33 years.   Hell they'll even re-elect them if they don't completely fuck shit up.  The problem for Dems is when they do get someone elected, they completely fuck shit up and promptly get thrown out to the Pine Barrens, never to be seen again.  

            This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

            by DisNoir36 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 11:14:52 AM PDT

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            •  And that is exhibit A of how we do it (0+ / 0-)

              I have recommended this comment if for no other reason than it is a perfect example of New Jersey's don't mince words way of doing things.

              And it is largely on target.  I would suggest, however, that Jim Florio was on the right track from a policy point of view, but he massively screwed up the politics of the property tax reform.  And if you can't get the politics right, it doesn't matter how right you are on the policy.

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