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  •  Design build still requires an architect (2+ / 0-)
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    La Gitane, BlueMississippi

    and engineer.

    •  Yes (3+ / 0-)
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      Ray Pensador, NYFM, la urracca

      but in design/build they contract with the contractor, not the owner.

      Therefore they don't report directly to the owner, the contractor does.  The contractor has the last word on what gets presented to the owner.

      "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

      by La Gitane on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 01:52:11 PM PDT

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      •  Design/build is a bad development for A/E's (4+ / 0-)

        I speak as someone who has defended design professionals since 1986.  The mindset of a GC and the mindset of an A/E are usually very different.  Design/build makes A/E's think more like GC's, which isn't a positive development.

        Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

        by RFK Lives on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 03:04:48 PM PDT

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        •  TOTALLY agree (6+ / 0-)

          I find myself having to explain this to clients very often.

          Contractors have a profit motive that isn't necessarily in the owner's best interest, and owners usually don't have enough experience in the building industry to know better.  The architect is the only knowledgeable advocate that the owner has - our motive is completely different from that of the GC.

          Sort of a fox in the hen house situation....  thank you so much for speaking on this.  It's rare that this issue gets talked about!  My colleagues are all afraid to diss the GC's for fear of never getting any government contracts.

          "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

          by La Gitane on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 03:24:39 PM PDT

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