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    ferg, chuckvw, The Jester

    Try getting in the door at most large engineering companies without the paper.

    I would not have been able to apply for my current position per internal company rules without my MS.

    Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

    by blue aardvark on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 11:20:16 AM PDT

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    •  Agreed, however.... for engineering/science (1+ / 0-)
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      ... I wouldn't recommend taking a job at a fortune 500 as an entry level job at all.

      Start ups and small/medium companies you are much more likely to have the opportunity to spread you wings and fly. You are likely to have more responsibility and greater opportunity to express your skills.

      That's how I started, after CO-OP'ing at Raytheon during college, I went to a start up and never looked back.

      The problem with HR and procurement at giant corporations is they are so big they can't do the kind of 1-on-1 recruiting that lets you ferret out the real gems from the chaff.... regardless of "paper".

      I can't tell you how many empty headed diploma holders Ive run across as software and electronics engineers.

      How about, right now in front of me, write up code to calculate the square root. Or bias a transistor.

      You can't imagine how many MS holders I've run across doing hiring, that were completely befuddled.

      Honestly, int he real world, the Nation suffers.... have you noticed the quality of electronics and software these days?

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