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  •  You don't really believe (4+ / 0-)
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    JVolvo, Simplify, Tortmaster, kharma

    that AT&T, Verizon, et al. actually record all our phone calls as part of the "metadata" they DO record for business and billing purposes, do you? I mean, I can see this with email because it's all part of the package and storage on the provider's server. But if our service providers were already recording all our calls and storing them for any length of time, the NSA wouldn't need those big data facilities. It could just get today's warrants from the FISA court and go electronically tiptoe'ing through the phone company's data storage facility.

    There used to be a whole body of state and federal laws governing telephone communications and the expectation of privacy. You couldn't just go snap a line-tap on somebody's phone line to listen in, it was a crime. If law enforcement, national security authorities or such wanted a tap, they'd have to present a legal warrant to the phone company and tap "administratively" through the company switch and router facilities.

    Were those laws ever stricken from the books just because cell phone technology is different from land lines, and easier to tap electronically? If so, I sure don't recall hearing about how and when we lost our rightful expectation of privacy for telephonic communications.

    Oh... there were also laws pertaining to mail and telegraph communications. We have lost much more than some people would like to think about. I'm old enough to miss rights of privacy that young people never knew existed, I guess.

    •  Am I missing something? (2+ / 0-)
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      duhban, Tortmaster

      Where is there a reference to recorded phone conversations? I don't see it in the diary. Is it in the ruling itself? Or are you just assuming that "communications" includes telephone conversations?

      Nothing human is alien to me.

      by WB Reeves on Thu Aug 22, 2013 at 01:13:55 PM PDT

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