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  •  Got to love those Syrian neocons. (0+ / 0-)

    Almost no original content on that site except for their analysis stories. THe rest is almost 100% video content coming out of Syria.

    It doesn't take much knowledge of Arabic to get dates and places out of those videos. For the date, listen to where they  say "XXX alfein utlatash" and look up the XXX. That's the date. And the palce names you can infer from the captions. Beyond that, there's just what your lying eyes tell you.

    But then, you won't. You're the kind of guy who just keeps a little list of sources and won't listen to anything else. And what';s really pathetic about people like you is you think it makes you sophisticated.

    •  You're the chemical weapons expert (0+ / 0-)

      with the Youtubes to prove "it", whatever it is...I otoh am not.

      "Syrian neocons"? Try the Arab Affairs correspondent from the Jerusalem Post - that's who's running your beloved "source".

      •  Doesn't take much expertise (0+ / 0-)

        to know a constricted pupil when you see one.

        Or to know when someone's having trouble breathing, and yet not showing any sign of obstruction in his breathing passageways.

        Or to know what the side effects ot atropine look like (Wikipedia's your friend on that one).

        All that's content sourced from Syrians. Syrians holding the cameras. And Syrians dying in front of the cameras.

        You're pathetic.

        •  What's "pathetic" (2+ / 0-)
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          Is suggesting that we should destroy another country to save it, but I digress.

          Symptoms of pyrethrin poisoning:

          Lungs and airways
          Breathing difficulty

          Nervous system
          Coma
          Convulsions

          Skin
          Irritation
          Redness or swelling

          Symptoms of organophosphate or carbamate poisoning:

          Bladder and kidneys
          Increased urination

          Eyes, ears, nose, and throat
          Increased salivation (drooling)
          Increased tearing
          Small pupils

          Gastrointestinal
          Abdominal cramps
          Diarrhea
          Loss of appetite
          Nausea
          Vomiting

          Heart and blood
          Slow heart rate

          Lungs and airways
          Breathing difficulty
          Nervous system
          Anxiety
          Coma
          Convulsions
          Dizziness
          Headache
          Weakness

          Skin
          Blue lips and fingernails

          •  Is you. (0+ / 0-)

            You're a left wing mirror of a dittohead.

            And a bit of a fantasist if you're going to claim the video footage from 48 horus ago was staged using pyrethrin.

            •  Are you suggesting that the 'shown' symptoms (1+ / 0-)
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              are not consistent with insecticide poisoning symptoms shown above? (organophosphate etc)

              If so please do elucidate.

              •  Are you suggesting that the child I saw dying.. (0+ / 0-)

                ... was poisoned with bugspray? As well as the dozens of people being piled into that field hospital?  By whom? And how would they do it? Go on. Oliver Stone would love to have you for a script writer. Or maybe  Brookheimer.

                •  "bugspray" (2+ / 0-)
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                  Yeah you try inhaling undiluted industrial-grade insecticide and see what happens...

                  As to the cinematic value of the Syrian debacle, you're almost correct. It is being "written", in that money, arms and support are being funnelled willy-nilly to god knows who for god knows what. Chaos makes for a great story, if that's your taste in film.

                  •  Okay, so undiluted pyrethrin. (0+ / 0-)

                    How did this come about?

                    Did the FSA send people to run around an area being actively shelled by the SAA, spraying pyrethrin? Shit, the Nusra soldiers controlling the Houran don't dare stop the locals from sending their sick and injured over to an Israeli field hospital. And you think right by Damascus they'd be brazen enough to do this to the residents ? Are you really that insane?

                    •  "How did this come about?" (2+ / 0-)
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                      protectspice, chuckvw

                      is exactly the question.

                      There is general understanding that something happened - some sort of deadly chemical attack, but which toxin or toxins were used, how they were delivered, in how large an area, effecting how many people, and who launched the attack are unknown.

                      Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

                      by InAntalya on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 12:57:36 PM PDT

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                      •  There's more details than that. (1+ / 0-)
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                        Texas Lefty

                        The area where the victims were collected was under SAA shelling. (You see rockets leaving SAA bases, you see explosions in Eastern Ghouta, you put 2 & 2 together.)

                        The SAA has shells and rockets designed to deliver sarin. And it has sarin.

                        Geee. I wonder. What could possibly have happened?

                        I mean, unless you think the FSA has people willing to run around, dodging an SAA bombardment in order to inflict even more death on the residents, I think the answer is flat out obvious.

                    •  "Send people"? (2+ / 0-)
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                      InAntalya, chuckvw

                      The "people" were already there, in a heated battle w the S army. Now if your only argument is that it would require "brazenness" on the part of the rebels ... I don't know how to even possibly begin to 'argue' about that. A link or two is not going to open your eyes.

                  •  Again, come up with a plausible story. (0+ / 0-)

                    How did this happen? Did the FSA poison Eastern Ghouta with pyrethrin at the same time the SAA was shelling the place?

                    •  Why do you believe that this is impossible? (1+ / 0-)
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                      chuckvw

                      The videos and eyewitness statements contain multiple instances where people claim to have been on the streets and going into peoples' houses to find dead people and/or people who were suffering distress - all while Syrian government forces were shelling the area.

                      Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

                      by InAntalya on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 01:02:10 PM PDT

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                      •  Because I don't watch bad Turkish movies. (0+ / 0-)

                        Geez. What's more likely:

                        1. people running around a bombardment area to collect the wounded and deliver them to hospital,

                        or 2.people running around a bombardment area to inflict even more death and destruction, and then collect the dead and wounded and deliver them to a field hospital.

                        •  and I don't pay much heed to closed minds. (2+ / 0-)
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                          protectspice, chuckvw

                          Believe what you want to.

                          Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

                          by InAntalya on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 01:13:43 PM PDT

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                        •  And as to how likely your 2nd scenario is, (2+ / 0-)
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                          protectspice, chuckvw

                          considering what I have seen al-Nusrah do it is not by any means difficult for me to consider that al-Nusrah could have done this.

                          Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

                          by InAntalya on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 01:20:05 PM PDT

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                          •  Fascinating. (0+ / 0-)

                            Given that they have a presence near the Israeli border, and yet are too scared to prevent locals from going to the ISraelis for medical treatment.

                            And yet willing to treat the residents of Eastern Ghouta this way.

                            Interesting.

                          •  Please do elucidate. (1+ / 0-)
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                            chuckvw

                            But considering your depth of knowledge that is probably asking too much.

                            Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

                            by InAntalya on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 02:04:28 PM PDT

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