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  •  Are you suggesting that the 'shown' symptoms (1+ / 0-)
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    are not consistent with insecticide poisoning symptoms shown above? (organophosphate etc)

    If so please do elucidate.

    •  Are you suggesting that the child I saw dying.. (0+ / 0-)

      ... was poisoned with bugspray? As well as the dozens of people being piled into that field hospital?  By whom? And how would they do it? Go on. Oliver Stone would love to have you for a script writer. Or maybe  Brookheimer.

      •  "bugspray" (2+ / 0-)
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        Yeah you try inhaling undiluted industrial-grade insecticide and see what happens...

        As to the cinematic value of the Syrian debacle, you're almost correct. It is being "written", in that money, arms and support are being funnelled willy-nilly to god knows who for god knows what. Chaos makes for a great story, if that's your taste in film.

        •  Okay, so undiluted pyrethrin. (0+ / 0-)

          How did this come about?

          Did the FSA send people to run around an area being actively shelled by the SAA, spraying pyrethrin? Shit, the Nusra soldiers controlling the Houran don't dare stop the locals from sending their sick and injured over to an Israeli field hospital. And you think right by Damascus they'd be brazen enough to do this to the residents ? Are you really that insane?

          •  "How did this come about?" (2+ / 0-)
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            is exactly the question.

            There is general understanding that something happened - some sort of deadly chemical attack, but which toxin or toxins were used, how they were delivered, in how large an area, effecting how many people, and who launched the attack are unknown.

            Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

            by InAntalya on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 12:57:36 PM PDT

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            •  There's more details than that. (1+ / 0-)
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              The area where the victims were collected was under SAA shelling. (You see rockets leaving SAA bases, you see explosions in Eastern Ghouta, you put 2 & 2 together.)

              The SAA has shells and rockets designed to deliver sarin. And it has sarin.

              Geee. I wonder. What could possibly have happened?

              I mean, unless you think the FSA has people willing to run around, dodging an SAA bombardment in order to inflict even more death on the residents, I think the answer is flat out obvious.

          •  "Send people"? (2+ / 0-)
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            InAntalya, chuckvw

            The "people" were already there, in a heated battle w the S army. Now if your only argument is that it would require "brazenness" on the part of the rebels ... I don't know how to even possibly begin to 'argue' about that. A link or two is not going to open your eyes.

        •  Again, come up with a plausible story. (0+ / 0-)

          How did this happen? Did the FSA poison Eastern Ghouta with pyrethrin at the same time the SAA was shelling the place?

          •  Why do you believe that this is impossible? (1+ / 0-)
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            chuckvw

            The videos and eyewitness statements contain multiple instances where people claim to have been on the streets and going into peoples' houses to find dead people and/or people who were suffering distress - all while Syrian government forces were shelling the area.

            Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

            by InAntalya on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 01:02:10 PM PDT

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            •  Because I don't watch bad Turkish movies. (0+ / 0-)

              Geez. What's more likely:

              1. people running around a bombardment area to collect the wounded and deliver them to hospital,

              or 2.people running around a bombardment area to inflict even more death and destruction, and then collect the dead and wounded and deliver them to a field hospital.

              •  and I don't pay much heed to closed minds. (2+ / 0-)
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                protectspice, chuckvw

                Believe what you want to.

                Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

                by InAntalya on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 01:13:43 PM PDT

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              •  And as to how likely your 2nd scenario is, (2+ / 0-)
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                protectspice, chuckvw

                considering what I have seen al-Nusrah do it is not by any means difficult for me to consider that al-Nusrah could have done this.

                Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

                by InAntalya on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 01:20:05 PM PDT

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                •  Fascinating. (0+ / 0-)

                  Given that they have a presence near the Israeli border, and yet are too scared to prevent locals from going to the ISraelis for medical treatment.

                  And yet willing to treat the residents of Eastern Ghouta this way.

                  Interesting.

                  •  Please do elucidate. (1+ / 0-)
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                    chuckvw

                    But considering your depth of knowledge that is probably asking too much.

                    Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

                    by InAntalya on Fri Aug 23, 2013 at 02:04:28 PM PDT

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